also man has the inherent desire to build and create something that will last for ages

so there is that element of nationalism as well

@Bogatyr Bogumir This person thinks nationalism is stupid because they "have nothing in common with someone who lives in the rural area"

A pretty good argument can be made that is not true for most people on the planet, but ultimately that's not as important if it's true or not, because it isn't why nationalism exists

Nationalism and comradery is somewhat of a "social contract" that evolution placed in us for a reason

Because it has historically united people against invaders and encourages people to take care of the land that they occupy.

Thinking it's meaningless because some hick on a farm doesn't love diversity as much as you highlights a lack of understanding of why it exists in humans in the first place.

@The Big Oof He is right tho, Nationalism is stupid because it destroys the distinct groups in the society that those not feel part of the bourgeoise culture.

Saying that Nationalism has historically united people against invaders is very dishonest. Nationalism is a product of the French Revolution, I will agree that it united the revolutionaries to fight against what they felt were tyrants trying to take. However it also caused a bloody civil war in France because it enforced homogenization of the historical provinces of France. Or the retardation that was Hungarian nationalism that tried to magyarize the other ethnic groups, despite only 40% of the country population was Hungarian.

Nationalism is only part of our modern nation-states, problem is, the state and nation is defined by the very few, not the people themselves. Nationalist might screech about foreigners in their country and make fun of liberals, yet they are oblivious to the fact nationalism is closely intervened with liberalism and the way liberalism has evolved has also shaped the nation-state with it ideals of tolerance and multi-culturalism.

It is actually pretty funny to think about. How nationalism and the birth of democratic nation-states where the nation could now rule themselves and people could take part in the new sovereign state by the democratic process. But now this state has failed and need to integrate and assimilate other groups to either become a multi-cultural society or create a new nation with the new inhabitants.

From "liberating" themselves from multi-national empires to later become a nation state and to our modern time were said nation state is destroying the nation they swore to protect, said nation that ironically was more free under the historical empire.

@everyone Daily Question 🔖

Are tarrifs beneficial? Why or why not? Why is the U.S economy improving under tarrifs?

no fags

us Canadians want nafta back

Tarrifs are beneficial u fag

NAFTA was an unfair one sided trade deal

USMCA makes Canadian steel and dairy workers gauge their eyes out

Because you leafs finally have to compete

listen here dipshit

Shut up leaf

shut up obese libertarian

I'm not a lolbert

yes you are

The US economy has been on the up regardless. The Dow Jones has been topping out regularly for years and years. Recessions happen every decade and it has been a decade since the last one, so of course the economy is up and its not really thanks to Trump.

*press X to Doubt*

taxation is theft

^

Property is theft

personally, the best form of government is no government

fuckers still paying for electricity

These tariffs just happen to coincide with a very predictable up in the economy, but no one seems to look at patterns.

tariffs are the big gay

Also, the more we stave off wherever the next recession will come from, the worse it will probably be.

trump isn't fit to be president

One should be around the corner

Fuck the economy.

@名被盜 What are you smoking, Nationalism is a modern word and concept yes, most nations existed before the idea of nationalism this is a fact. People unite under a tribe, these have always been ethnic, literally in languages you will find ethnic groups describing other non in persons as for example slavs describing germanic peoples as Niemy, or unintelligable or ununderstandable. This already creates a nation defacto a nation is simply an expansion fo the tribe to the size of what is a territory and people instinctively fought over this. This was simply later defined as nationalism.

Nationalism has nothing to do with liberalism, since the two are completely at odds with each other. Because one shaped a nation state does not mean that liberalism is part of nationalism or even related to it. This is simply creating a false connection.

Minority groups are not magical unicorns that are somehow deserving, this is some random absurdity and the minority bourgeoise culture does not define the nation, ther eis a reason nationalism has always gone hand in hand with folk and village romanticism, combined with great vritues and values. Nationalism is essentially the formalization and definition of a natural phenomena we see in nature and the nature of groups, it is transforming that natural instinct etc. into a coherent ideology, as until liberalism and other ideologies that saught to break up the nation didnt exist nationalism and the like were completely unessecary.

Not once in history has there been actual assimilation of a group, ther ehas either been rampant forced mixing, or simply extermination, either way one culture is always set to die, alongside one people.

Tribalism and in-group loyalty existed long before the French Revolution. The French Revolution and Napoleonic Wars simply giving that behavior a new label and applying a modern definition to it doesn't mean it wasn't always there @名被盜

Not really much to say there, because nothing else needs to be said.

Tribalism does not equal Nationalism

It's more or less the same behavior, so it sort of does, if not exactly

Nationalism in inherently populist, while customarily Elitism was the case.

Ye nationalism is tribalism 2.0 the ideology

btw