@Selous

Evolution

You shouldn’t be proud of that

Im am agnostic evolutionist

Depends.

I'm probably the most unorthodox here, but: I think evolution is fact, however, people should be creationists.

So you think people should follow something even though it’s wrong?

What the fuck

Define evolution (and creation)

Creationism generally refers to fundamentalist Christians who believe the earth is ~6,000 years old

But you can believe the universe was created without believing in the young earth

both tbh

You don't believe in evolution it's a proven fact

I would say creationism. When I go outside I’m amazed and would be surprised an accident or overtime something created the universe. However no creator has ever revealed themselves and carbon dating can date back. Nobody can say without a doubt how the universe came into existence with absolute proof so idk

Or God or something else could have set evolution into place

Creationism, Evolution has so many flaws under darwin's model a god must've filled in the gaps for it to be true

Creationism without a doubt.

Evolution is a Masonic religion

@Da_Fish David Duke is a very articulate, well spirited and smart person.

He was just talking about religious stuff today on a podcast on youtube, hes a russian orthodox.

Creationism, Evolution is a flawed theory and has a very circumstantial basis. Only God could have made the animals you see around you today.

@CrowGoCaw you are not right wing

leave

^this
Devolution

Intelligent Design ftw

Both. Creation is about the creation of the spiritual world. evolution is a physical process that is proven. How the spirit of things relate to the physical world or how it has affected evolution is a matter of debate.

There is a lot of evidence for evolution or an evolution like process but this doesn’t take anything from the creation. Evolution is just a physical process in the real world things happen because there is a will or force that makes it possible .

Evolution. It seems that most people who oppose the idea do so because their own personal incredulity. The way evolution functions makes sense and we know it occurs. There is basically no difference between so-called "micro" and "macro evolution" other than time.

Yes, and obviously if a company has a 100% of growth in 1 year, it will have 100% growth every year.

What about all the fossils

They seem to match with an evolutionary theory

There are issues in evolutionary theory hence why its being revised

generally the issue we come about is how did evolution stat

and generlaly life may have been unavoidable and the forms we see today will simply replicate anywhere life is viable

so the idea is both

however there is a massive question of how DNA even came to be, and self replication as thhere is an issue that if i give infinite time and infinite possibilities for combinations I will see information coding for self replication arise... which is not the case.

If we have chaos that functions by certain rules and infinite attempts to creat order, the issue is to create self replicating order, and since the order is no longer subject to the chaos, at least so internally it mus timmediately be formed as self replicating order.

The way proteins fold, the way they interact and are held otgether all seems almost scripted, legitimately it seems designed when you actually look at it, its quite an insane machine this biology we have discovered.

(Personally I have an idea of consciousness playing part in this, to the point were cells have their own consciousness and generally this would change all of biology but all I have is some videos here and there... While I wish I had a lab, im a student and no one will take me seriously)

Scientific theories are revised as better evidence is discovered, that's what makes it science and not dogma. That is not to say that there is no such thing as "scientific dogma", what happens when the evidence is not put first. When that happens, it's not science at all. I do think nature is amazing and complex. I don't see that as a reason to believe in something more complex, unprecedented and untestable like the supernatural. We can observe some things that support the theory of evolution, quite a few things actually. The same can not be said of creation theory or ID. There are also things that don't make sense if one was creating beings, flaws or vestigial structures. I'm not really knowledgeable on the subject but I think this video speaks to some of the issues brought up about abiogenesis, which is really a separate issue from evolution. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1xnYFCZ9Yg

You are completely wrong. We now know that Neo Darwinism is wrong because horizontal gene transfer has been proven. The argument from Neo Darwinists was that their model which does not include horizontal gene transfer or epigenetics was sufficient to explain diversity of life. We now know that statement was a lie because there was no evidence of that. All studies conducted on mutation rate showed otherwise.
Creationism or ID may not be Science, but Evolutionists are liars. And I would rather have pseudo Science than lying progressivism

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```Horizontal gene transfer (HGT) or lateral gene transfer (LGT)[1][2][3] is the movement of genetic material between unicellular and/or multicellular organisms other than by the ("vertical") transmission of DNA from parent to offspring (reproduction).[4] HGT is an important factor in the evolution of many organisms.[5][6] ```