@uber You should dunk on nationalism

Oh, new qotd. I vote authoritarianism, despite having ben a libertarian in the past.

@t r u e I wouldnt call them vestigial as each has its function, otherwise they simply wouldnt be present. Extra nipples are a syndrome if I remember correctly. And wisdom teeth generally fit in most people, most people that they dont fit in have inborn issues with their jaws to begin with, for the majority of people they dont need to be removed. Im not so much arguing against evolution as much as that evolution produced something relatively perfect. For example nipples in men are also erogenic. And must exist because we are dimorphic and have divided development, also have reasons for mating purposes 9attractiveness matters).

I can guarantee that we will discover the purpose of goosebumps and the levator and i think depressor ________ muscles soon. Same with the appendix. Evolution doesnt leave things in if they dont work. It leaves them there because they serve a prupose (hell the muscles mught simply hel the skull take on the stresses of other muscles on bone. Or may be involved in the scalp. IMO they help with aiding that hearing during high stress, and same with goosebumps. Ill do some research on it. Generally every creature is perfectly adapted to what it needs to be adapted to.

Rear leg bones in whales 😉

Anyway, I get your point of view. We will have to agree to disagree.

authoritarianism is better

@Enigmatic★Chromatic Left wing authoritarianism such as what? Leninism? I've looked into Strasserism a LITTLE and I agree that land and natural resources should be state controlled to serve the nation. Not rented, speculated, privately owned and passed down. I'm for their meritocratic state schools. I'm a bit indifferent on their ideas on how to run factories. I'm against their agriculture fetish. They were completely wrong on race.

Well I am not a nationalist, I support authority in the sense of continued revolutionary terror to reach communism

Firstly revolutionary and military struggle against the state, and after which cultural revolution used to combat revisionism and reactionaryism

Nationalism is the greatest defense against exploitation

hot take

Strasserism in my opinion doesn't go far enough in regards to revolutionizing the relationships to production and on this I even agree with Nazbol more. I know the far right is supposed to be against capitalism, but outside of returning to Feudalism and perhaps distributism I have not seen any legitimate alternative to the capitalist mode of production from the right

I would actually saw outside of Marxism the left doesn't have a comprehensive alternative to capitalism either

The common ground we have is an opposition it consumerism and the decadence of the bourgeois class

My support for authority is in destroying bourgeois power, reorganizing the relationships to production and all that is entailed with that like ending the urban rural divide and changing the state from liberal democracy to whatever fits a planned socialist economy

Sorry by my big long gay thing, but I thought I would explain it a bit more

Oh and I'm not sure strasserism actually abolishes the commodity form which is the most important aspect to ending capitalism

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@Bowman Yes, I 100% agree with you

@Enigmatic★Chromatic The Left wants free healthcare, free tuition/free education and rights for all.

They want the 1% and the government to pay for it all.

Uh

That's not really leftist...

Like fascists are for welfare programs too

Everything fails without nationalism and a sense of a unified people, this would be especially true in multi-culti America with it's elevated racial tensions. I wouldn't say the far right is against capitalism really, I would say they seek to separate productive behavior from exploitive. I have no problem with people earning a wage or the existence of income disparity. I have no problem with buying and selling personal goods. In my mind though, no one would own a large business as much as they would just be put in charge of operations. Their pay and continued employment dependent on their performance. No shares to be sold and no speculation on goods and materials. No profit from money manipulation, no interest rate. I like the idea of money serving only to buy personal items and being otherwise useless. I'm not sure where I'm headed on economic issues and I can't label myself.

authoritarianism

authoritarianism big gay

liberty or death

then you will be given death

Well people are paid differently, according to labor, in communism so we aren't against income disparity either. Our goal is the elimination of class distinctions and the move from production for exchange to production for use. But I mean ethno-nationalism is only one form of nationalism and it's a recent invention. Past societies were largely multi-racial. I'll provide my favorite definition of a Nation: ```A nation is a historically constituted, stable community of people, formed on the basis of a common language, territory, economic life, and psychological make-up manifested in a common culture.```
It's important to see this doesn't include race and I'll provide the reasoning

```What is a nation?
A nation is primarily a community, a definite community of people.
This community is not racial, nor is it tribal. The modern Italian nation was formed from Romans, Teutons, Etruscans, Greeks, Arabs, and so forth. The French nation was formed from Gauls, Romans, Britons, Teutons, and so on. The same must be said of the British, the Germans and others, who were formed into nations from people of diverse races and tribes.
Thus, a nation is not a racial or tribal, but a historically constituted community of people.```

Now international is not the abolition of nations, as they'll naturally arise from material conditions of the time and place, but it is the end of nation states

Currently nation states are a thing of the past anyways. The USA is made up of many nations, the South, New England, the Native Tribes and Black People all constitute separate nations

Italy is similar, it's Tuscany dominant but contains many national identities invluding entirely different dialects. China and India are likewise made of many nations. In China the dominant nation is Han Chinese with 54 other ethnic groups, many of which are given national self determination and autonomous regions

The TL;DR is I'm not oppose to nationalism by nature, just national chauvanism

it's irrelevant if people are or aren't paid differently for labour in communism

as what "pay" represents is vastly different anyway

Elaborate?

A small authoritarian government with the explicit desire to serve and to see over the nation's people.

Think midget with a bazooka, not really harmful on it's own, but not a good idea to piss it off.

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