Message from @Victor Von Doom

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2018-12-09 23:25:28 UTC  

Yes but Benito Mussolini is the accredited founder of the party.

2018-12-09 23:25:32 UTC  

I don't so much support the Mussolini's version of fascism as, IIRC, it was government centric. I think government gets it's meaning from the people, not the other way around. At the center of every decision must be what is good for the people and government must serve the people, not the person.

2018-12-09 23:26:24 UTC  

Well yes but fascism is a one party system so its not good for the interests of the people as a whole due to everyone having different views.

2018-12-09 23:26:29 UTC  

@Pinochet fascism can't be socialistic.

2018-12-09 23:26:35 UTC  

It rejects it.

2018-12-09 23:26:39 UTC  

Yet its economy is

2018-12-09 23:26:43 UTC  

Hahaha.

2018-12-09 23:27:03 UTC  

It is it's own brand of socialism.

2018-12-09 23:27:16 UTC  

you are thinking of Marxist Socialism

2018-12-09 23:27:42 UTC  

Migueleby, is that the Venezuelan flag on your name?

2018-12-09 23:28:26 UTC  

Socialism is when the MoP is owned collectively by the workers.

Fascist Italy was economically statist, but there never was collective ownership of the MoP.

The Third Reich's economy was based on privatization en masse, these corporations were under State supervision, but never nationalized nor collectively owned. Hitler even crushed all worker unions. @Pinochet

2018-12-09 23:28:26 UTC  

@Pinochet the people are 85% NPCs, they're a bunch of morons.

2018-12-09 23:28:56 UTC  

@Pinochet Well, I would argue that a two party system is often just the illusion of choice. Perhaps there are wedge issues to keep the masses divided, but what really matters to those in power will be done no matter what in time. I would argue that capitalist democracies are particularly bad because real democracy doesn't exist where capital can be brought to bear. Capitalist democracy is rule by the capitalist, for the capitalist.

2018-12-09 23:29:29 UTC  

and by that I mean they don't actually know what's good for them, just look at all of the babylonian hedonism of the modern world - the lemmings are a product of the system

2018-12-09 23:30:47 UTC  

I mean Fascism generally doesnt work.

2018-12-09 23:31:22 UTC  

If I must explain why, you need a history book.

2018-12-09 23:31:52 UTC  

I say I'm a fascist, but just saying that does not denote an exact type of government but rather a classification. I agree that fascism can fail.

2018-12-09 23:32:03 UTC  

based

2018-12-09 23:32:12 UTC  

Fascism does fail.

2018-12-09 23:32:18 UTC  

Name a time where it succeeded

2018-12-09 23:32:40 UTC  

First point out issues with Germany's

2018-12-09 23:32:50 UTC  

The west is failing now because of democracy. It has not served the people's interest in a long time because of capitalism.

2018-12-09 23:33:23 UTC  

@Pinochet Fascism turned Germany into the second world economy by GDP and ended unemployement.

2018-12-09 23:33:27 UTC  

Actually, the people decided who ran the country so it served the people in the exact way they wished for.

2018-12-09 23:33:30 UTC  

Also based, democracy and capitalism built the country, but in a post industrial and ever rotting country we need to return to our roots

2018-12-09 23:33:31 UTC  

on the topic of fascism's economic doctrine, can I post a quote from a book i used on an essay for university here?

2018-12-09 23:33:33 UTC  

By majority standards atleast

2018-12-09 23:33:35 UTC  

all government systems have failed?

2018-12-09 23:33:43 UTC  

Reject modernity, return to the green top

2018-12-09 23:33:48 UTC  

Fascism also rebuilt Italy, and worked quite well till the Great Depression.

2018-12-09 23:34:28 UTC  

Migueleby it also caused extreme poverty at the end, millions of deaths, fearful citizens, the bombings on Germany to the point it was rubble...

2018-12-09 23:34:59 UTC  

Concentration camp construction

2018-12-09 23:35:08 UTC  

And much more

2018-12-09 23:35:09 UTC  

poverty in fascist italy?

2018-12-09 23:35:19 UTC  

'A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until a majority of voters discover that they can vote themselves largess out of the public treasury.'

2018-12-09 23:35:32 UTC  

Fascism but nice this time <:Dude:459545653031469068>

2018-12-09 23:35:37 UTC  

^

2018-12-09 23:35:45 UTC  

promise 😉

2018-12-09 23:35:47 UTC  

Yet democracy lasts much longer than any other system

2018-12-09 23:35:53 UTC  

And causes more benefit

2018-12-09 23:36:16 UTC  

Also true, until others start to ruin the system, there is noone left to vote for