Message from @ecojuche

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2018-12-09 23:09:10 UTC  

So imma deport Erika cuz shes 10

2018-12-09 23:09:19 UTC  

Im just extremely nationalist.

2018-12-09 23:09:34 UTC  

@t r u e Also fascist is thrown around a lot what does it exactly mean?

2018-12-09 23:11:39 UTC  

I have read A squire's trial but it doesn't really give me a complete answer.

2018-12-09 23:13:54 UTC  

governance in accordance with natural law

2018-12-09 23:15:44 UTC  

Well, it's a hierarchical form of government rather than one that celebrates democracy. There are some "freedoms" to do things that are harmful to the individual and the nation that I don't think are beneficial. Extreme individualism is harmful. So some things democratic societies might consider "freedoms" would likely be regulated by government.

2018-12-09 23:17:02 UTC  

Seems like a good system, though is there any way to stop corruption at higher levels of government?

2018-12-09 23:17:40 UTC  

Nope its full rule of one party.

2018-12-09 23:17:48 UTC  

Its a dictatorship by party

2018-12-09 23:17:58 UTC  

Its for a state of national defense

2018-12-09 23:18:04 UTC  

@Victor Von Doom you may find this useful to read too, if you haven't already.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/452955238186614794/521465586304286722/IronMarch_-_Next_Leap_v2.pdf

2018-12-09 23:18:29 UTC  

Fascism has a socialist economy, which is why I don’t personally like it.

2018-12-09 23:19:00 UTC  

Its based off socialism as its founder Benito Mussolini was socialist before creating the Fascist party.

2018-12-09 23:20:03 UTC  

They have the same economic values due to this, but with fascism everything is to the best interest of the nation. The one party rules the nation as long as possible, no other parties exist.

2018-12-09 23:20:06 UTC  

As with all systems, there is the risk of corruption. How this is dealt with depends on the exact system. A fascist form of government may take one of several forms. I would say that democracy is corrupted by people voting for individual interests and politicians looking out for the same. I think democratic systems tend to look out for the rich and an oligarchy of unelected billionaires is worse than a system of government that has a set of ground rules and courts to keep it in check.

2018-12-09 23:20:15 UTC  

re. corruption, using NS germany as an example, gun ownership was legal

2018-12-09 23:20:32 UTC  

except for merchants and other troublesome tricksters

2018-12-09 23:21:05 UTC  

Isn't Giovanni Gentile the philosopher behind it?

2018-12-09 23:22:46 UTC  

idk who originally came up with it tbh

2018-12-09 23:23:33 UTC  

Mussolini made fascism

2018-12-09 23:24:46 UTC  

there are a large amount of philosophers that have contributed to the ideological foundation of fascism, gentile co-wrote (or ghost wrote) mussolini's fascist manifesto, and did a lot of synthesizing of older philosopher's works

2018-12-09 23:25:28 UTC  

Yes but Benito Mussolini is the accredited founder of the party.

2018-12-09 23:25:32 UTC  

I don't so much support the Mussolini's version of fascism as, IIRC, it was government centric. I think government gets it's meaning from the people, not the other way around. At the center of every decision must be what is good for the people and government must serve the people, not the person.

2018-12-09 23:26:24 UTC  

Well yes but fascism is a one party system so its not good for the interests of the people as a whole due to everyone having different views.

2018-12-09 23:26:29 UTC  

@Pinochet fascism can't be socialistic.

2018-12-09 23:26:35 UTC  

It rejects it.

2018-12-09 23:26:39 UTC  

Yet its economy is

2018-12-09 23:26:43 UTC  

Hahaha.

2018-12-09 23:27:03 UTC  

It is it's own brand of socialism.

2018-12-09 23:27:16 UTC  

you are thinking of Marxist Socialism

2018-12-09 23:27:42 UTC  

Migueleby, is that the Venezuelan flag on your name?

2018-12-09 23:28:26 UTC  

Socialism is when the MoP is owned collectively by the workers.

Fascist Italy was economically statist, but there never was collective ownership of the MoP.

The Third Reich's economy was based on privatization en masse, these corporations were under State supervision, but never nationalized nor collectively owned. Hitler even crushed all worker unions. @Pinochet

2018-12-09 23:28:26 UTC  

@Pinochet the people are 85% NPCs, they're a bunch of morons.

2018-12-09 23:28:56 UTC  

@Pinochet Well, I would argue that a two party system is often just the illusion of choice. Perhaps there are wedge issues to keep the masses divided, but what really matters to those in power will be done no matter what in time. I would argue that capitalist democracies are particularly bad because real democracy doesn't exist where capital can be brought to bear. Capitalist democracy is rule by the capitalist, for the capitalist.

2018-12-09 23:29:29 UTC  

and by that I mean they don't actually know what's good for them, just look at all of the babylonian hedonism of the modern world - the lemmings are a product of the system

2018-12-09 23:30:47 UTC  

I mean Fascism generally doesnt work.

2018-12-09 23:31:22 UTC  

If I must explain why, you need a history book.

2018-12-09 23:31:52 UTC  

I say I'm a fascist, but just saying that does not denote an exact type of government but rather a classification. I agree that fascism can fail.

2018-12-09 23:32:03 UTC  

based

2018-12-09 23:32:12 UTC  

Fascism does fail.

2018-12-09 23:32:18 UTC  

Name a time where it succeeded