For this society to work you need to rely on each other

Yes

That's why community

A good family will ensure that their children will go into society and work just like any other

Without a community they can't ensure

A lost child can still be corrected by a community

Families together can create communities

Community gives education

That is true

Family is just teaching basics to a child

Community can do the same tbh

But just because a man is lost doesn’t mean he cannot have children that will not be lost like he was

You do have a point

I'd say the family.

this is a good question.

I think the individual is the 'base unit' since it's the smallest thing that you can break a society into.

the individual is the fundamental unit of morality and law, the family of the economy, and the tribe/collective/community of politics

see that is interesting, I'd say that the community has an economy more than a family @AnarchoReign

All these systems must be analyzed with these units in mind: "does this law uphold the rights of the individual" "do these entitlement reforms strengthen family ties" "do these political reforms strengthen communal cultrual bonds

@Porpoise so did the commie, look where they ended up

lol

the community has an economy, but the family is the fundamental unit, if the family fails, the economy will fail in the long run

ah I see

families produce future workers, they invest in the future by nurturing the future labor force

why can it not be boiled down to the individual then

because of concern for future generations?

because and individual cannot produce babies

an individual by themselves on an island is not an economy, even a group of individuals merely trading are not a long run economy, they can't invest in the future

babies are the future investment, without them, the old can never retire and will be in constant survivor mode

till the day they die

capitalism is based around the individual, hence sub-replacement fertility rate which requires mass immigration

I would say an economy is composed of different agents using resources, so there is nothing to say that they have to replenish and reproduce. Sure, I will agree that families must prosper for us to have what we call a 'good' distribution of resources but I don't think it's necessary to examine the economy purely at that level.

ignoring the fact the social fallout of such a policy, that relies on perpetual shithold countries, and so is inherently destructive, or at least poverty is then endogenous to your model

you can't make all countries posperous, cause then you won't have an immigrant labor force to pour into your country

saying the individual is the basic unit doesn't mean that you ignore the wider picture

capitalists look at the society very often I'd say

instead of single agents

It depends, any society who's unit does not go past the individual is doomed to failure. Our society has been lasting this long because of the family being the unit, allowing for long term success, the individual being the main focus is a modern invention.

An invention derived from our consistent decadence into wholly materialistic objectives.

that's how the modern world has twisted it, but individualism originated from the concept of freedom

I'm not saying it's right to base a civilization off of it, just that it has its place