Message from @campodin
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They can pray wherever
But making a call to prayer that goes out over entire communities is different
_Why?_
These discussions always go back to why. I don't want a surface level, "because it's bad" or "muh feels." Something substantive, deeper.
When they are not in a specifically muslim community it is an imposition of their religious practice on others
They can't enter another's land against their will... I agree with you there. But if by "community" you mean a town owned by the state, these Muslims can do whatever.
and if they have built a large enough community inside another nation to warrant having a mosque to serve them, then you have the problem of minority communities
Minority communities can do whatever, my only problem is when the state starts pandering.
minority communities have much larger implications
Very.
*sigh*
Continue
having significant minority communities reduces societal trust, and thus social cohesion
"These discussions always go back to why. I don't want a surface level, "because it's bad" or "muh feels." Something substantive, deeper."
Why's it bad.
which leads to all sorts of negative effects
Good.
So you want to violate people's liberty saying they can't live in certain places outside of their own 'nation?'
Never said that
So what's your solution to minority communities?
They are free to enter any community that accepts them
So you want to tell them where they can live? And they do have that right, freedom of movement.
Does someone own the community?
Communities have collective self determination. They can choose restrictions for entry.
How do you decide who is inside the 'Community'/'Nation.?'
Because most communities don't work this way.
Most are cancerous and self destructive
This system you're proposing sounds broken. We have communities that decide who lives who and this is backed by state power, we should be sure that no none Christians should enter office, all I am asking is _why!_ Why is there less of a problem with muslim communities in the states, _even though_ America lets them enter into the country and its politics?
First off, most mosques aren't allowed to do their calls to prayer in the United States. They are managed, and they aren't coddled like they are in Europe. Literally it is the state operating in the interest of the nation, rather than allowing them to be completely free to do as they will. We have been stricter on them since the terrorist attacks, instead of making excuses.
I have already given the reason why. I said communities can decide who is allowed in, not where people get to live. Having the requirement that one be a Christian to hold office is only ensuring that the office holder actually has the interests of the nation in mind. It isn't broken, it is exactly the way it used to be. Look at American history or Orania.
Japan monitors the few mosques within their country under surveillance
The only thing wrong with that scenario is that Muslims are even there in the first place
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQhoE6eM34c&has_verified=1 shitskins kill frenchman , spread the info !
Muslims are a big fucking problem.
Berbers and Pakis seem to be the worst from my experience.
Bitch America has more deaths from school shootings than terrorist attacks
And if ya don't want any terrorist attacks, then just end the Saudi kingdom
The whole Saudi family is corrupt
Kill em all
Silly child
you guys think getting involved in politics and nationalist groups in hopes to make some real change is foolish or not?