Message from @CasualDevil
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@Lotus Calme
See the issue from that thinking is it stems from a church system much like your opponent
lemme finish
hang on you two
the three factors have to do with the four questions in a theological setting
What are the three ideas lol?
Hang on computer crashed, now on my phone
kkk
The three ideas are correspondence, coherence, and provable falsifiability
And each of those are tests to the theology of a religion
And a religion’s ideology is based on four questions mankind asks itself
Morals
Destiny
Meaning
And origin
Each answer to the four fundamental questions must be coherent, must corespond with reality, and must be provably true
okay, that falsifiability was throwing me off there
Ye
To give an example, if Christ said he’d return as a spirit rather than a body he wouldn’t be provably falsifiable, because you have no we to prove or disprove a spirit
That’s what I mean by provably falsifiable
If it is wrong, then one can prove it
It seems like a pretty solid definition of what makes a religion, as the attempt of it is to try to comprehend truth. But there also exist paradoxes too from our lack of understanding
So it's ideology is narrow minded despite it's efforts of trying to make sense of the order of nature
Yeah, the fix to most parodoxes in this case though would be to study further and absorb more information
that too can help with advancements
Exactly
You guys catch on fast
Most of the people I try to talk to about this seem mostly from r/atheism
fuck plebbit honestly lol
Damn straight
yknow I wonder with the idea of a transcendental law or being romantics would talk about, what does that imply for freewill?
It implies free will exists
one, because we can chose to disobey the transcendent laws
two, because if humans have a nature and only that nature we hove no capacity to seek the truth, and many of us have sought the truth
I might be confusing transcendentalism for Immanence with the orders of nature
Free will isn’t real
Cause and effect prevents it from existing
how so?
All decisions come from influences
We can’t make them without an influence
so you're telling me that as an automaton?
And everyone makes decisions in a certain way depending on their brain