Message from @Rob Travis (Mason)

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2018-06-13 03:02:26 UTC  

^

2018-06-13 03:02:45 UTC  

depends on the context tho

2018-06-13 03:03:12 UTC  

>implying the initial context of the story isn't the only one that should ever be considered

2018-06-13 03:03:20 UTC  

@Lotus Calme Perhaps when it is both since they convey the reality of sacrifice, but as you see in many religions of the past with indoctrination systems, people do bad things from the literal context

2018-06-13 03:03:39 UTC  

"bad things"

2018-06-13 03:04:30 UTC  

hey my god is the truth from my holy text, your god is bad and must be killed off

2018-06-13 03:04:43 UTC  

I agree, My God is Truth

2018-06-13 03:04:52 UTC  

and your god is a demon

2018-06-13 03:04:58 UTC  

you must turn from your ways or be subjugated

2018-06-13 03:05:12 UTC  

the way we can determine on what holy script is right is by three factors

2018-06-13 03:05:53 UTC  

is it the old testament?
is it the new testament?
is it Christ-centered?
😉

2018-06-13 03:06:13 UTC  

im getting to that

2018-06-13 03:06:17 UTC  

@Lotus Calme
See the issue from that thinking is it stems from a church system much like your opponent

2018-06-13 03:06:22 UTC  

lemme finish

2018-06-13 03:06:27 UTC  

hang on you two

2018-06-13 03:07:33 UTC  

the three factors have to do with the four questions in a theological setting

2018-06-13 03:09:59 UTC  

What are the three ideas lol?

2018-06-13 03:11:49 UTC  

Hang on computer crashed, now on my phone

2018-06-13 03:11:53 UTC  

kkk

2018-06-13 03:12:47 UTC  

The three ideas are correspondence, coherence, and provable falsifiability

2018-06-13 03:13:26 UTC  

And each of those are tests to the theology of a religion

2018-06-13 03:14:08 UTC  

And a religion’s ideology is based on four questions mankind asks itself

2018-06-13 03:14:13 UTC  

Morals

2018-06-13 03:14:18 UTC  

Destiny

2018-06-13 03:15:30 UTC  

Meaning

2018-06-13 03:15:37 UTC  

And origin

2018-06-13 03:17:48 UTC  

Each answer to the four fundamental questions must be coherent, must corespond with reality, and must be provably true

2018-06-13 03:19:06 UTC  

okay, that falsifiability was throwing me off there

2018-06-13 03:19:28 UTC  

Ye

2018-06-13 03:21:04 UTC  

To give an example, if Christ said he’d return as a spirit rather than a body he wouldn’t be provably falsifiable, because you have no we to prove or disprove a spirit

2018-06-13 03:21:24 UTC  

That’s what I mean by provably falsifiable

2018-06-13 03:21:42 UTC  

If it is wrong, then one can prove it

2018-06-13 03:22:12 UTC  

It seems like a pretty solid definition of what makes a religion, as the attempt of it is to try to comprehend truth. But there also exist paradoxes too from our lack of understanding

2018-06-13 03:23:40 UTC  

So it's ideology is narrow minded despite it's efforts of trying to make sense of the order of nature

2018-06-13 03:23:42 UTC  

Yeah, the fix to most parodoxes in this case though would be to study further and absorb more information

2018-06-13 03:23:55 UTC  

that too can help with advancements

2018-06-13 03:24:03 UTC  

Exactly

2018-06-13 03:24:13 UTC  

You guys catch on fast

2018-06-13 03:24:37 UTC  

Most of the people I try to talk to about this seem mostly from r/atheism

2018-06-13 03:24:52 UTC  

fuck plebbit honestly lol

2018-06-13 03:25:17 UTC  

Damn straight