Message from @Slendy

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2018-06-13 03:21:24 UTC  

That’s what I mean by provably falsifiable

2018-06-13 03:21:42 UTC  

If it is wrong, then one can prove it

2018-06-13 03:22:12 UTC  

It seems like a pretty solid definition of what makes a religion, as the attempt of it is to try to comprehend truth. But there also exist paradoxes too from our lack of understanding

2018-06-13 03:23:40 UTC  

So it's ideology is narrow minded despite it's efforts of trying to make sense of the order of nature

2018-06-13 03:23:42 UTC  

Yeah, the fix to most parodoxes in this case though would be to study further and absorb more information

2018-06-13 03:23:55 UTC  

that too can help with advancements

2018-06-13 03:24:03 UTC  

Exactly

2018-06-13 03:24:13 UTC  

You guys catch on fast

2018-06-13 03:24:37 UTC  

Most of the people I try to talk to about this seem mostly from r/atheism

2018-06-13 03:24:52 UTC  

fuck plebbit honestly lol

2018-06-13 03:25:17 UTC  

Damn straight

2018-06-13 03:26:41 UTC  

yknow I wonder with the idea of a transcendental law or being romantics would talk about, what does that imply for freewill?

2018-06-13 03:29:45 UTC  

It implies free will exists

2018-06-13 03:36:49 UTC  

one, because we can chose to disobey the transcendent laws

2018-06-13 03:37:31 UTC  

two, because if humans have a nature and only that nature we hove no capacity to seek the truth, and many of us have sought the truth

2018-06-13 03:40:45 UTC  

I might be confusing transcendentalism for Immanence with the orders of nature

2018-06-13 03:40:46 UTC  

Free will isn’t real

2018-06-13 03:41:00 UTC  

Cause and effect prevents it from existing

2018-06-13 03:41:11 UTC  

how so?

2018-06-13 03:41:48 UTC  

All decisions come from influences

2018-06-13 03:42:00 UTC  

We can’t make them without an influence

2018-06-13 03:42:22 UTC  

so you're telling me that as an automaton?

2018-06-13 03:42:24 UTC  

And everyone makes decisions in a certain way depending on their brain

2018-06-13 03:42:58 UTC  

then how is it the moment i make a truth claim or seek out the truth i rise above predeterminalism?

2018-06-13 03:43:07 UTC  

Can something come out from a vacuum?

2018-06-13 03:43:25 UTC  

the laws of entropy say no

2018-06-13 03:43:44 UTC  

watch this for some context to my arguments

2018-06-13 03:44:03 UTC  

i parasphrased him a little

2018-06-13 03:44:04 UTC  

A true vacuum can’t exist

2018-06-13 03:44:32 UTC  

also false

2018-06-13 03:44:35 UTC  

The decision making process is just multiple chemical reactions

2018-06-13 03:44:39 UTC  

It can be predicted

2018-06-13 03:44:59 UTC  

Not with current technology

2018-06-13 03:45:06 UTC  

But one choice can only be made

2018-06-13 03:45:08 UTC  

you mean the physical manifestation of free will can be

2018-06-13 03:45:17 UTC  

but not the free will itself

2018-06-13 03:46:03 UTC  

We’re not really the one deciding

2018-06-13 03:46:11 UTC  

No free will

2018-06-13 03:46:29 UTC  

i use my free will to disagree with you

2018-06-13 03:47:00 UTC  

It feels as if we are making decisions but it’s always the most logical outcome in its own way