Message from @Rob Travis (Mason)
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@Josh42A I'm not ancap, but ancap is a good meme
In English, like every language in the world, words have meaning.
im still done I hate post modernists
@εïз irma εïз we don't have to use the word evil then, we could use "bad" or "wrong"
Is it bad for a child to steal from a baker if they're starving?
@Josh42A
>me
>a post modernist
I am an ABSOLUTIST
@εïз irma εïз it's bad for anyone to steal, reason does not matter
nice try post modernist
perhaps it is wrong for the child to be starving
I can tell you're a absolutist because of the gaps in your logic.
but thieving is still wrong
@εïз irma εïз its not wrong in terms of nessesity , but it is in principle
@Josh42A you're the one with a morally relative ideology
morals *are* reletive
false
It is bad for ANYONE to steal, ignoring the context of specific situations. The necessity of starvation is more important than the morality of theft.
^literal post modernist though @Josh42A
didnt you say things have an intrinsic value
they do
Moral relativism is not a strictly post-modernist view.
@εïз irma εïз
>implying a justified act can't still be wrong
it's almost as if you're a relativist
morals are reletive because context matters
morals should be on principle
pragmatism is bullshit
if your morality is moveable, it shall be moved, and thus it is relativist
They should and they are, yet morals are not the same everywhere. Only morals that are a part of our biological shopping list are common across cultures.
yes just like society
if all the moral principals were in place the starving child wouldnt happen
Yes I quoted Foucault. 😎
@Rob Travis (Mason) this is literally true
sure
we would feed him before he felt the need to steal
But this is not the case. It never has been and it never will.
let me clarify
never have an ideology judged on its imperfections
only on its stated principles
Never express your ideology based on its imperfections.
St. Thomas of Aquinas is all the moral philosophy necessary to be sound and true
punishment for immoral actions must be relative
>implying punishment has even been brought up on our end