Message from @Lotus Calme
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but thieving is still wrong
@εïз irma εïз its not wrong in terms of nessesity , but it is in principle
@Josh42A you're the one with a morally relative ideology
morals *are* reletive
false
It is bad for ANYONE to steal, ignoring the context of specific situations. The necessity of starvation is more important than the morality of theft.
^literal post modernist though @Josh42A
didnt you say things have an intrinsic value
they do
Moral relativism is not a strictly post-modernist view.
then how are morals subjective?
@εïз irma εïз
>implying a justified act can't still be wrong
it's almost as if you're a relativist
morals are reletive because context matters
morals should be on principle
pragmatism is bullshit
if your morality is moveable, it shall be moved, and thus it is relativist
They should and they are, yet morals are not the same everywhere. Only morals that are a part of our biological shopping list are common across cultures.
yes just like society
if all the moral principals were in place the starving child wouldnt happen
Yes I quoted Foucault. 😎
sure
we would feed him before he felt the need to steal
But this is not the case. It never has been and it never will.
let me clarify
never have an ideology judged on its imperfections
only on its stated principles
Never express your ideology based on its imperfections.
St. Thomas of Aquinas is all the moral philosophy necessary to be sound and true
punishment for immoral actions must be relative
>implying punishment has even been brought up on our end
which is why we have different punishment for different crimes and how severe
>implying you have a monopoly on what is and is not discussed
>implying that this isn't a contained discussion between 4 people with 2 people falling relatively together
in each group
Doesn't imply that at all.
You're just making implications everywhere aren't you?
he literally sees in black and white
black, white, and grey
1. bad
2. good
3. passive
3 distinct groups