Message from @Deleted User

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2018-06-28 13:18:36 UTC  

Classical liberalism is left-wing???

2018-06-28 13:19:01 UTC  

YEs because it's egalitarian. It presupposes the rights of man and so on.

2018-06-28 13:19:11 UTC  

Right wing is hierarchical.

2018-06-28 13:19:29 UTC  

Egalitarian vs. hierarchical as a basis for a left-right dichotomy is a fucking meme and you should know that.

2018-06-28 13:19:45 UTC  

Oh right. Metaphysics is a meme now.

2018-06-28 13:19:52 UTC  

Well, good luck!

2018-06-28 13:19:59 UTC  

In context of modern politics classical liberalism would be center if anything.

2018-06-28 13:20:16 UTC  

Is this another one of those things where you make an ass out of yourself and then leave in an exasperated sigh?

2018-06-28 13:20:23 UTC  

Go on. I'm waiting.

2018-06-28 13:20:23 UTC  

Well, I haven't made an ass out of myself.

2018-06-28 13:20:31 UTC  

Yet. For a second time.

2018-06-28 13:20:41 UTC  

There's still time.

2018-06-28 13:20:51 UTC  

Egalitarian vs. Hierarchical may be "a fucking meme", but that's what is accepted on the right.

2018-06-28 13:21:03 UTC  

That's what we think, and if you don't like it, we don't care.

2018-06-28 13:21:46 UTC  

Classical liberalism has as its focus individualism, not necessarily egalitarianism as a virtue but as a means to an end of efficient organization of society through what today is interpreted as free market principles.

2018-06-28 13:21:54 UTC  

So barking up the wrong tree a little bit to classify it as egalitarian.

2018-06-28 13:22:24 UTC  

Yes, "free market" competition as regulated by the state.

2018-06-28 13:22:34 UTC  

Otherwise: Ancap.

2018-06-28 13:22:38 UTC  

Actually with limited state regulation. Close but no cigar.

2018-06-28 13:23:01 UTC  

Yes, so it's egalitarian.

2018-06-28 13:23:21 UTC  

As opposed to an aristocratic, monarchist, or fascist state.

2018-06-28 13:23:21 UTC  

Wait, do you think classical liberals are anarcho-capitalists?

2018-06-28 13:23:48 UTC  

No, but they swim around in the same pool.

2018-06-28 13:23:56 UTC  

And here I thought leftists were retarded

2018-06-28 13:24:06 UTC  

So you would classify anything that promotes equality of opportunity as leftist?

2018-06-28 13:24:32 UTC  

What exactly is retarded about the observation that ancaps and liberals agree that free market competition + individualism is good?

2018-06-28 13:24:37 UTC  

You want to classify egalitarianism as left-wing when it's such a broad and applicable term that it becomes meaningless. That's why the left-right dichotomy is largely useless as a technical classification.

2018-06-28 13:24:51 UTC  

Well, I honestly can't be bothered

2018-06-28 13:25:04 UTC  

I mean where do I go from here

2018-06-28 13:25:08 UTC  

Egalitarianism is left wing

2018-06-28 13:25:09 UTC  

Is it your habit to claim you can't be bothered whenever you say something stupid and indefensible?

2018-06-28 13:25:12 UTC  

To deny that is just fucking stupid

2018-06-28 13:25:17 UTC  

It's just an outright lie

2018-06-28 13:26:09 UTC  

I mean you're just an embittered liberal who hates America

2018-06-28 13:26:39 UTC  

I'm a liberal thanks for telling me. Never knew. I thought I was a fascist but I guess you corrected me.

2018-06-28 13:27:15 UTC  

I've never known a fascist be so ridiculously petty as you

2018-06-28 13:27:30 UTC  

It's impossible to have a discussion because you refuse to agree on definitions

2018-06-28 13:27:42 UTC  

First Left Right egalitarian vs. hierarchicality was "a fucking meme"

2018-06-28 13:27:52 UTC  

Now it's "largely useless"

2018-06-28 13:28:07 UTC  

well then there is no point even discussing anything because your worldview doesn't allow for large categories, apparently

2018-06-28 13:28:24 UTC  

Nobody takes the left-right dichotomy outside of context specific politics, like in America where liberals are the "left" and conservatives are the "right". Outside of American politics, not only is that incorrect but those categories break down.