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If you can't handle that you are the one that needs to leave
You should just rename it to the fag cafe
>libertarianism is left-wing
Even though the premise for left-libertarianism and right-libertarianism lead to radically different ideologies and the actual difference between the two isn't meaningful beyond social policy which can't be enforced anyways without a strong government.
For example most anarchists don't regard anarcho-capitalism as anarchist for some reason.
Libertarianism in its original form was just classical liberalism. The foundation for libertarianism is the exact same.
Exactly, so left wing.
Classical liberalism is left-wing???
YEs because it's egalitarian. It presupposes the rights of man and so on.
Right wing is hierarchical.
Egalitarian vs. hierarchical as a basis for a left-right dichotomy is a fucking meme and you should know that.
Oh right. Metaphysics is a meme now.
Well, good luck!
In context of modern politics classical liberalism would be center if anything.
Is this another one of those things where you make an ass out of yourself and then leave in an exasperated sigh?
Go on. I'm waiting.
Well, I haven't made an ass out of myself.
Yet. For a second time.
There's still time.
Egalitarian vs. Hierarchical may be "a fucking meme", but that's what is accepted on the right.
Classical liberalism has as its focus individualism, not necessarily egalitarianism as a virtue but as a means to an end of efficient organization of society through what today is interpreted as free market principles.
So barking up the wrong tree a little bit to classify it as egalitarian.
Yes, "free market" competition as regulated by the state.
Otherwise: Ancap.
Actually with limited state regulation. Close but no cigar.
Yes, so it's egalitarian.
As opposed to an aristocratic, monarchist, or fascist state.
Wait, do you think classical liberals are anarcho-capitalists?
No, but they swim around in the same pool.
And here I thought leftists were retarded
So you would classify anything that promotes equality of opportunity as leftist?
What exactly is retarded about the observation that ancaps and liberals agree that free market competition + individualism is good?
You want to classify egalitarianism as left-wing when it's such a broad and applicable term that it becomes meaningless. That's why the left-right dichotomy is largely useless as a technical classification.
Well, I honestly can't be bothered
I mean where do I go from here
Egalitarianism is left wing
Is it your habit to claim you can't be bothered whenever you say something stupid and indefensible?
To deny that is just fucking stupid
It's just an outright lie
I mean you're just an embittered liberal who hates America