Message from @Deleted User

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2018-06-28 13:18:23 UTC  

Exactly, so left wing.

2018-06-28 13:18:36 UTC  

Classical liberalism is left-wing???

2018-06-28 13:19:01 UTC  

YEs because it's egalitarian. It presupposes the rights of man and so on.

2018-06-28 13:19:11 UTC  

Right wing is hierarchical.

2018-06-28 13:19:29 UTC  

Egalitarian vs. hierarchical as a basis for a left-right dichotomy is a fucking meme and you should know that.

2018-06-28 13:19:45 UTC  

Oh right. Metaphysics is a meme now.

2018-06-28 13:19:52 UTC  

Well, good luck!

2018-06-28 13:19:59 UTC  

In context of modern politics classical liberalism would be center if anything.

2018-06-28 13:20:16 UTC  

Is this another one of those things where you make an ass out of yourself and then leave in an exasperated sigh?

2018-06-28 13:20:23 UTC  

Go on. I'm waiting.

2018-06-28 13:20:23 UTC  

Well, I haven't made an ass out of myself.

2018-06-28 13:20:31 UTC  

Yet. For a second time.

2018-06-28 13:20:41 UTC  

There's still time.

2018-06-28 13:20:51 UTC  

Egalitarian vs. Hierarchical may be "a fucking meme", but that's what is accepted on the right.

2018-06-28 13:21:03 UTC  

That's what we think, and if you don't like it, we don't care.

2018-06-28 13:21:46 UTC  

Classical liberalism has as its focus individualism, not necessarily egalitarianism as a virtue but as a means to an end of efficient organization of society through what today is interpreted as free market principles.

2018-06-28 13:21:54 UTC  

So barking up the wrong tree a little bit to classify it as egalitarian.

2018-06-28 13:22:24 UTC  

Yes, "free market" competition as regulated by the state.

2018-06-28 13:22:34 UTC  

Otherwise: Ancap.

2018-06-28 13:22:38 UTC  

Actually with limited state regulation. Close but no cigar.

2018-06-28 13:23:01 UTC  

Yes, so it's egalitarian.

2018-06-28 13:23:21 UTC  

As opposed to an aristocratic, monarchist, or fascist state.

2018-06-28 13:23:21 UTC  

Wait, do you think classical liberals are anarcho-capitalists?

2018-06-28 13:23:48 UTC  

No, but they swim around in the same pool.

2018-06-28 13:23:56 UTC  

And here I thought leftists were retarded

2018-06-28 13:24:06 UTC  

So you would classify anything that promotes equality of opportunity as leftist?

2018-06-28 13:24:32 UTC  

What exactly is retarded about the observation that ancaps and liberals agree that free market competition + individualism is good?

2018-06-28 13:24:37 UTC  

You want to classify egalitarianism as left-wing when it's such a broad and applicable term that it becomes meaningless. That's why the left-right dichotomy is largely useless as a technical classification.

2018-06-28 13:24:51 UTC  

Well, I honestly can't be bothered

2018-06-28 13:25:04 UTC  

I mean where do I go from here

2018-06-28 13:25:08 UTC  

Egalitarianism is left wing

2018-06-28 13:25:09 UTC  

Is it your habit to claim you can't be bothered whenever you say something stupid and indefensible?

2018-06-28 13:25:12 UTC  

To deny that is just fucking stupid

2018-06-28 13:25:17 UTC  

It's just an outright lie

2018-06-28 13:26:09 UTC  

I mean you're just an embittered liberal who hates America

2018-06-28 13:26:39 UTC  

I'm a liberal thanks for telling me. Never knew. I thought I was a fascist but I guess you corrected me.

2018-06-28 13:27:15 UTC  

I've never known a fascist be so ridiculously petty as you

2018-06-28 13:27:30 UTC  

It's impossible to have a discussion because you refuse to agree on definitions

2018-06-28 13:27:42 UTC  

First Left Right egalitarian vs. hierarchicality was "a fucking meme"

2018-06-28 13:27:52 UTC  

Now it's "largely useless"

2018-06-28 13:28:07 UTC  

well then there is no point even discussing anything because your worldview doesn't allow for large categories, apparently