Message from @PebbЛe
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natsocs are fascists lol
No they're not
S e p e r a t e
not even nazi germany could be considered fascist
it had very social democratic politics a la Bismarck
the first part is flat out wrong
the second part is okay
no it was very social democratic
insofar as labor participation and organization beside capital
it was practically Bismarck's economics on steroids
Hitler opposed Social Democracy mate?
his part was literally the socdem party
it came from the DAP
He fought against them in his Venice and constriction days
He indentified them as a bunch of power hungry corrupters who poisoned the lower classes
yes that is how he viewed their inability to progress the gemeinschaft
but the SPD literally melted into the DAP and NSDAP
and he continued the economics of the SPD
Hitler directly believed everything the Social Democrats did was hurtful to the people
Why would he continue policies which he identified as hurtful to the people
He just universalized who the dividend goes to
from heavy industries
and so on
Nazi Germany was not Fascist, you Horse-shoeist
I'm a Fascist myself, fyi
Germany had shit tons of Social programs and was war-driven
The only way to completely achieve Hitler's ideals was through war, and nothing else could be done about it
ofc Mussolini had his ideals about the new Roman Empire, but that was low on the bucket list when compared to everything else
But I'm talking too much about the iconic figureheads
NatSoc is Socially Nationalistic
That was the main thing of it
which a lot of people fail to realize
whilst Fascism is the Supremacy of the state with utmost loyalty to the nation, adhering to the ideals proposed in the DoF (Doctrines of Fascism), with no rules for exception, nor "tolerance" or "equality"
Fascist Italy didn't do that well from what I understand
Nazi Germany had mass privatization, but also strong market regulation and expanded social programs.
They sold a ton of state owned industries if I recall correctly
And nationalized alot
yeah, they nationalized Jewish businesses and things they needed for the war
for example