Message from @Deleted User

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2018-08-27 02:14:58 UTC  

I only hear insults

2018-08-27 02:15:12 UTC  

I made several arguments

2018-08-27 02:15:20 UTC  

You just cannot read can you?

2018-08-27 02:15:31 UTC  

*another insult*

2018-08-27 02:15:39 UTC  

@εïз irma εïз you can’t make this shit up

2018-08-27 02:15:51 UTC  

I repeated one of my arguments twice

2018-08-27 02:15:53 UTC  

He's just a troll.

2018-08-27 02:15:57 UTC  

Don't assume rationality.

2018-08-27 02:16:06 UTC  

Because idiots like you scroll too fast and don’t read my arguments

2018-08-27 02:16:20 UTC  

And fixate on me calling out an ignoramus like irma

2018-08-27 02:16:24 UTC  

Give me an argument on the importance of slavery to the average Union or Confederate citizen

2018-08-27 02:16:34 UTC  

I never made that argument

2018-08-27 02:16:37 UTC  

That’s what you’re arguing

2018-08-27 02:16:48 UTC  

You aren’t reading

2018-08-27 02:16:51 UTC  

Well I did say why it was important to the average Southerner, but honestly it wasn't crazy support.

2018-08-27 02:17:04 UTC  

Many Southerers were also resentful of the aristocratic slaveholders.

2018-08-27 02:17:10 UTC  

Her original claim was that it wasn’t politically important to the north

2018-08-27 02:17:17 UTC  

@εïз irma εïз it wasn’t really, it was seen as the natural order of things

2018-08-27 02:17:23 UTC  

Then she shifted the narrative onto the average citizen

2018-08-27 02:17:31 UTC  

“The Civil War was about slavery to the south but didn't become an issue for the North until 1863.”

2018-08-27 02:17:37 UTC  

This is her original statement

2018-08-27 02:17:40 UTC  

The natural order argument didn't spring out of nothing though.

2018-08-27 02:17:42 UTC  

And it’s patently false

2018-08-27 02:17:53 UTC  

Radical Abolitionists did not hold power until the end of the war

2018-08-27 02:18:03 UTC  

You allowed her to shift the frame because you don’t read carefully

2018-08-27 02:18:19 UTC  

None of the 1860 election candidates proposed banning slavery entirely

2018-08-27 02:18:20 UTC  

I was talking specifically about the context of the war if you look at the larger conversation, and I have since repeatedly clarified that going as far back as to the independence of America.

2018-08-27 02:18:27 UTC  

You can't seem to move past that.

2018-08-27 02:18:39 UTC  

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2018-08-27 02:18:50 UTC  

You are making these adjustments to your arguments ad hoc

2018-08-27 02:19:10 UTC  

Whereas your arguments have been?

2018-08-27 02:19:21 UTC  

Lincoln wanted it banned in all western territories, Douglas wanted self determination, Bell wanted whatever compromise would keep the union together, Breckinridge wanted its expansion regardless of the popular opinion

2018-08-27 02:19:23 UTC  

Directly responding to your initial claims

2018-08-27 02:19:35 UTC  

Wasn't Lincoln planning to send the slaves to Liberia. I know he said that the slaves, once freed, should try and get to Africa.

2018-08-27 02:19:44 UTC  

I don't know, it seems mostly like you're just interested in insulting and screeching.

2018-08-27 02:20:12 UTC  

@Euro-American Bandit Freed Slaves where sent to Liberia under Monroe

2018-08-27 02:20:15 UTC  

I merely take issue with your mealy-mouthed weasel-words

2018-08-27 02:20:19 UTC  

Hence Monrovia the capital of Liberia

2018-08-27 02:20:27 UTC  

Ah. Understood

2018-08-27 02:20:40 UTC  

Well let's assume I'm totally wrong about everything and we can move on.

2018-08-27 02:21:08 UTC  

Wow a rare moment of humility from Irma