You aren’t reading

Well I did say why it was important to the average Southerner, but honestly it wasn't crazy support.

Many Southerers were also resentful of the aristocratic slaveholders.

Her original claim was that it wasn’t politically important to the north

@εïз irma εïз it wasn’t really, it was seen as the natural order of things

Then she shifted the narrative onto the average citizen

“The Civil War was about slavery to the south but didn't become an issue for the North until 1863.”

This is her original statement

The natural order argument didn't spring out of nothing though.

And it’s patently false

Radical Abolitionists did not hold power until the end of the war

You allowed her to shift the frame because you don’t read carefully

None of the 1860 election candidates proposed banning slavery entirely

I was talking specifically about the context of the war if you look at the larger conversation, and I have since repeatedly clarified that going as far back as to the independence of America.

You can't seem to move past that.

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You are making these adjustments to your arguments ad hoc

Whereas your arguments have been?

Lincoln wanted it banned in all western territories, Douglas wanted self determination, Bell wanted whatever compromise would keep the union together, Breckinridge wanted its expansion regardless of the popular opinion

Directly responding to your initial claims

Wasn't Lincoln planning to send the slaves to Liberia. I know he said that the slaves, once freed, should try and get to Africa.

I don't know, it seems mostly like you're just interested in insulting and screeching.

@Euro-American Bandit Freed Slaves where sent to Liberia under Monroe

I merely take issue with your mealy-mouthed weasel-words

Hence Monrovia the capital of Liberia

Ah. Understood

Well let's assume I'm totally wrong about everything and we can move on.

Wow a rare moment of humility from Irma

Please pin that

@Euro-American Bandit Lincoln’s opinions on what to do with the freed slaves is debated to this day

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Someone pin it

No

lmao

You are no fun give the reigns of this server to someone else

How about no

@Deleted User it’s up to you

Pin it

No

Do not pin it

Pathetic