Message from @Da_Fish

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2018-08-27 02:11:55 UTC  

Lincoln wouldn’t have been elected if he was an abolitionist

2018-08-27 02:12:02 UTC  

That’s bad form on your part not mine

2018-08-27 02:12:03 UTC  

Europeans preferred to duel with swords.

2018-08-27 02:12:16 UTC  

It would be president Stephen Douglas or John Bell

2018-08-27 02:12:49 UTC  

I vaguely remember that Lincoln lost the popular vote but I may be wrong.

2018-08-27 02:12:58 UTC  

He won a plurality

2018-08-27 02:13:17 UTC  

Yeah that's right.

2018-08-27 02:13:19 UTC  

Followed by Douglas, Breckinridge and Bell

2018-08-27 02:13:36 UTC  

I don’t understand how anyone can engage civilly with this utter mediocrity @εïз irma εïз

2018-08-27 02:13:38 UTC  

Electorally it was Lincoln, Breckinridge, Bell, Douglas

2018-08-27 02:13:52 UTC  

That seems to be a problem unique to you, Otter.

2018-08-27 02:14:22 UTC  

Seems like more people than just me want you to stay in your lane

2018-08-27 02:14:28 UTC  

In all reality civil war would’ve happened no matter who the president was

2018-08-27 02:14:35 UTC  

Maybe you can start a club.

2018-08-27 02:14:41 UTC  

It would be a healthy outlet.

2018-08-27 02:14:55 UTC  

@Deleted User you haven’t uttered one argument so far

2018-08-27 02:14:58 UTC  

I only hear insults

2018-08-27 02:15:12 UTC  

I made several arguments

2018-08-27 02:15:20 UTC  

You just cannot read can you?

2018-08-27 02:15:31 UTC  

*another insult*

2018-08-27 02:15:39 UTC  

@εïз irma εïз you can’t make this shit up

2018-08-27 02:15:51 UTC  

I repeated one of my arguments twice

2018-08-27 02:15:53 UTC  

He's just a troll.

2018-08-27 02:15:57 UTC  

Don't assume rationality.

2018-08-27 02:16:06 UTC  

Because idiots like you scroll too fast and don’t read my arguments

2018-08-27 02:16:20 UTC  

And fixate on me calling out an ignoramus like irma

2018-08-27 02:16:24 UTC  

Give me an argument on the importance of slavery to the average Union or Confederate citizen

2018-08-27 02:16:34 UTC  

I never made that argument

2018-08-27 02:16:37 UTC  

That’s what you’re arguing

2018-08-27 02:16:48 UTC  

You aren’t reading

2018-08-27 02:16:51 UTC  

Well I did say why it was important to the average Southerner, but honestly it wasn't crazy support.

2018-08-27 02:17:04 UTC  

Many Southerers were also resentful of the aristocratic slaveholders.

2018-08-27 02:17:10 UTC  

Her original claim was that it wasn’t politically important to the north

2018-08-27 02:17:17 UTC  

@εïз irma εïз it wasn’t really, it was seen as the natural order of things

2018-08-27 02:17:23 UTC  

Then she shifted the narrative onto the average citizen

2018-08-27 02:17:31 UTC  

“The Civil War was about slavery to the south but didn't become an issue for the North until 1863.”

2018-08-27 02:17:37 UTC  

This is her original statement

2018-08-27 02:17:40 UTC  

The natural order argument didn't spring out of nothing though.

2018-08-27 02:17:42 UTC  

And it’s patently false

2018-08-27 02:17:53 UTC  

Radical Abolitionists did not hold power until the end of the war

2018-08-27 02:18:03 UTC  

You allowed her to shift the frame because you don’t read carefully