Message from @Draco

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2018-10-23 18:13:42 UTC  

Likely he would be replaced

2018-10-23 18:13:59 UTC  

So, he is boss in name only, right? It is more like a direct democratic system

2018-10-23 18:14:06 UTC  

Management is obviously necessary

2018-10-23 18:14:16 UTC  

"in theory" "what it could be" "likely" "possibly"

2018-10-23 18:14:22 UTC  

Yes it is like a direct democratic system

2018-10-23 18:14:45 UTC  

So, no boss essentially. Because a boss could make no rules and do nothing without majority approval

2018-10-23 18:14:53 UTC  

communism leads to corruption

2018-10-23 18:15:00 UTC  

even tho thats the least of its problems

2018-10-23 18:15:13 UTC  

Well what is the role of a "boss" so to speak?

2018-10-23 18:15:26 UTC  

he makes the shots

2018-10-23 18:15:27 UTC  

Primarily in management and communication of departments

2018-10-23 18:15:36 UTC  

The role of boss is to act as an intermediary between the owners and the workers

2018-10-23 18:15:54 UTC  

I wouldn't say that

2018-10-23 18:16:10 UTC  

Perhaps in some respects this is also a character under the current system

2018-10-23 18:16:31 UTC  

But managerial work is obviously necessary, is it not?

2018-10-23 18:16:31 UTC  

It is just that. If management says that you have to work for one more hour, it would make owner happy, but workers unhappy

2018-10-23 18:16:49 UTC  

it boggles my mind someone can like something that is horrible, and failed everytime and only brought death and misery and was proven to fail every single time

2018-10-23 18:16:53 UTC  

Yes, as things exist today

2018-10-23 18:17:27 UTC  

Well let's look at co-operatives

2018-10-23 18:17:31 UTC  

These exist today

2018-10-23 18:17:34 UTC  

Well, that is the role of a boss. Lets say we have a boss like you say. Before making every decision he would have to take care that his approval rating does not fall, right?

2018-10-23 18:17:36 UTC  

And still bosses exist

2018-10-23 18:17:45 UTC  

There is no direct democracy in cooperative system

2018-10-23 18:18:02 UTC  

democracy sucks tbh

2018-10-23 18:18:21 UTC  

Co-Operatives are in some respects a model for a socialist work place

2018-10-23 18:18:35 UTC  

Id rather the boss be much like today, anyone who makes the firm

2018-10-23 18:18:40 UTC  

All members of a co-operative own the co-operative

2018-10-23 18:18:48 UTC  

hwever say limiting the wage or forcing X% of it to be spent on the company

2018-10-23 18:18:54 UTC  

and X% minimum on wages

2018-10-23 18:19:02 UTC  

that way the company grows and the economy has fuel

2018-10-23 18:19:08 UTC  

person who makes the company can do whatever the fuck he wants, within the law that is, if you dont like his workplace, leave

2018-10-23 18:19:51 UTC  

in communism a job is given to you and you have no ask and no right to complain

2018-10-23 18:19:55 UTC  

otherwise you go to gulag

2018-10-23 18:19:56 UTC  

Aren't you a NatSoc? Isn't it ideologically inconsistent to parrot the voluntarist positions of the AnCaps?

2018-10-23 18:20:26 UTC  

AnCaps don't believe in laws

2018-10-23 18:20:58 UTC  

I dont like the idea of telling someone "just leave" because its brutally unrealistic, that makes the economy often serve itself rather than the people. Who become a sort of commodity

2018-10-23 18:21:05 UTC  

with lowering of who needs ot be accepted

2018-10-23 18:21:07 UTC  

lowering the merit

2018-10-23 18:21:10 UTC  

Yes but the idea of voluntarism in regards to "voluntarily choosing who you associate with" is what I am taking about

2018-10-23 18:21:24 UTC  

all this theory talk is boring as shit

2018-10-23 18:21:24 UTC  

required, you get some horrible situations where you dont need 40% of people to work