Is cool, I gotcha dude

I think on this we have common ground

My issue is not people being richer, nor the existence of a boss, but the relationships to production

In some form or fashion working people should have democratic control of their work place and receive in full the value of their labour

That means no boss, lol.

You can elect a boss

Someone's job can be a manager

A boss who is accountable to the workers is ideal

But would you allow him to exercise his power even if he fails a majority test for a specified duration?

Likely he would be replaced

So, he is boss in name only, right? It is more like a direct democratic system

Management is obviously necessary

"in theory" "what it could be" "likely" "possibly"

Yes it is like a direct democratic system

So, no boss essentially. Because a boss could make no rules and do nothing without majority approval

communism leads to corruption

even tho thats the least of its problems

Well what is the role of a "boss" so to speak?

he makes the shots

Primarily in management and communication of departments

The role of boss is to act as an intermediary between the owners and the workers

I wouldn't say that

Perhaps in some respects this is also a character under the current system

But managerial work is obviously necessary, is it not?

It is just that. If management says that you have to work for one more hour, it would make owner happy, but workers unhappy

it boggles my mind someone can like something that is horrible, and failed everytime and only brought death and misery and was proven to fail every single time

Yes, as things exist today

Well let's look at co-operatives

These exist today

Well, that is the role of a boss. Lets say we have a boss like you say. Before making every decision he would have to take care that his approval rating does not fall, right?

And still bosses exist

There is no direct democracy in cooperative system

democracy sucks tbh

Co-Operatives are in some respects a model for a socialist work place

Id rather the boss be much like today, anyone who makes the firm

All members of a co-operative own the co-operative

hwever say limiting the wage or forcing X% of it to be spent on the company

and X% minimum on wages

that way the company grows and the economy has fuel

person who makes the company can do whatever the fuck he wants, within the law that is, if you dont like his workplace, leave

in communism a job is given to you and you have no ask and no right to complain