But managerial work is obviously necessary, is it not?

It is just that. If management says that you have to work for one more hour, it would make owner happy, but workers unhappy

it boggles my mind someone can like something that is horrible, and failed everytime and only brought death and misery and was proven to fail every single time

Yes, as things exist today

Well let's look at co-operatives

These exist today

Well, that is the role of a boss. Lets say we have a boss like you say. Before making every decision he would have to take care that his approval rating does not fall, right?

And still bosses exist

There is no direct democracy in cooperative system

democracy sucks tbh

Co-Operatives are in some respects a model for a socialist work place

Id rather the boss be much like today, anyone who makes the firm

All members of a co-operative own the co-operative

hwever say limiting the wage or forcing X% of it to be spent on the company

and X% minimum on wages

that way the company grows and the economy has fuel

person who makes the company can do whatever the fuck he wants, within the law that is, if you dont like his workplace, leave

in communism a job is given to you and you have no ask and no right to complain

otherwise you go to gulag

Aren't you a NatSoc? Isn't it ideologically inconsistent to parrot the voluntarist positions of the AnCaps?

AnCaps don't believe in laws

I dont like the idea of telling someone "just leave" because its brutally unrealistic, that makes the economy often serve itself rather than the people. Who become a sort of commodity

with lowering of who needs ot be accepted

lowering the merit

Yes but the idea of voluntarism in regards to "voluntarily choosing who you associate with" is what I am taking about

all this theory talk is boring as shit

required, you get some horrible situations where you dont need 40% of people to work

talk about real problems

well poland got fucked

major election meddling

@Bogatyr Bogumir Yeah in marxist terms we call this the sublation of labour to capital

Where labour power become a commodity

Or more accurately the ability to labour is a commodity

can you stop with the stupid theories and terms

Basically we had local elections

Labour power is a commodity in capitalism too

and in some areas 105% of eligible voters voted, albeit some 40% only sayign they went

lmao

classic

dead people voting as well

nothing new there