No, to be clear equality in some respects can be a result of communism, but Marxism is first and foremost a analytical method, and communism is the result, to which communism seeks to abolish class

Why would Marxism/Communism abolish class? What is wrong with class?

I cna see abolishing class socially, as in the construct of class and the attitudes. However is this good? Is it possible to abolish class physically and materialistically. Is that right in any way? I can see the case for preventing radical materialism and accumulation of absurd wealth, however beyond that?

Personally I do think that money needs to flow, CEO's shouldn't be making say 1000X or 10k times more than the floor worker who can barely get by. This leads to economic issues in and of itself

You mean shouldn't be?

No. I am Right Wing obviously

And I want to be clear, class in this sense is not defined by the amount of money one makes, or whether or not a boss exists, bosses are not an issue

I meant the person above said

"CEO's should be making..."

But the context made it sound like they meant to say shouldn't

oh wait they shouldn't

my bad

Is cool, I gotcha dude

I think on this we have common ground

My issue is not people being richer, nor the existence of a boss, but the relationships to production

In some form or fashion working people should have democratic control of their work place and receive in full the value of their labour

That means no boss, lol.

You can elect a boss

Someone's job can be a manager

A boss who is accountable to the workers is ideal

But would you allow him to exercise his power even if he fails a majority test for a specified duration?

Likely he would be replaced

So, he is boss in name only, right? It is more like a direct democratic system

Management is obviously necessary

"in theory" "what it could be" "likely" "possibly"

Yes it is like a direct democratic system

So, no boss essentially. Because a boss could make no rules and do nothing without majority approval

communism leads to corruption

even tho thats the least of its problems

Well what is the role of a "boss" so to speak?

he makes the shots

Primarily in management and communication of departments

The role of boss is to act as an intermediary between the owners and the workers

I wouldn't say that

Perhaps in some respects this is also a character under the current system

But managerial work is obviously necessary, is it not?

It is just that. If management says that you have to work for one more hour, it would make owner happy, but workers unhappy

it boggles my mind someone can like something that is horrible, and failed everytime and only brought death and misery and was proven to fail every single time

Yes, as things exist today

Well let's look at co-operatives

These exist today