Message from @MinecraftMemer

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2018-11-22 21:32:25 UTC  

What if you took an alternate view. Instead of seeing it as black rule and white rule, look at it as capitalist rule and Marxist rule?

2018-11-22 21:33:49 UTC  

why does it simply have to be Marxist rule?

2018-11-22 21:35:41 UTC  

Because logically, wouldn't the economic decline be based off of economic reasons?

2018-11-22 21:36:25 UTC  

Hence, wouldn't the economic problems be better viewed as capitalism vs. Marxism rather than white vs. black?

2018-11-22 22:29:37 UTC  

@MinecraftMemer They are poor with money, so any system you give them

2018-11-22 22:29:40 UTC  

It won't work

2018-11-22 22:29:49 UTC  

Immigration makes this worse

2018-11-22 22:29:56 UTC  

I don't understand.

2018-11-22 22:30:06 UTC  

If you Import the few intellectual and economically upper class Africans from another country, After time passes it destroys the African country as they are devoid of those who can innovate and invest. Eventually the poor Africans come in as economic refugees, and then Everything is fucked.

2018-11-22 22:30:08 UTC  
2018-11-22 22:30:33 UTC  

I don't see how poor people destroy a country.

2018-11-22 22:30:51 UTC  

Unless you are using redistribution, poor people at worst do nothing.

2018-11-22 22:30:52 UTC  

Because poor people are bad with money

2018-11-22 22:31:03 UTC  

They can't innovate and invest

2018-11-22 22:31:09 UTC  

They are essentially dead weight

2018-11-22 22:31:16 UTC  

But they don't go out of their way to harm the economy.

2018-11-22 22:31:28 UTC  

They harm it regardless of their intentions

2018-11-22 22:31:38 UTC  

And how do they harm it?

2018-11-22 22:31:47 UTC  

By existing?

2018-11-22 22:32:27 UTC  

Welfare consumption, foreign and domestic aid, not working and supporting the market

2018-11-22 22:32:52 UTC  

But welfare and aid are because governments and cultures CHOOSE to pursue welfare and aid.

2018-11-22 22:33:06 UTC  

Those are leftist economic choices, not intrinsic to the poor.

2018-11-22 22:33:20 UTC  

@MinecraftMemer in attempt to lift them out of poorness so they can contribute to the economy

2018-11-22 22:33:35 UTC  

If we do nothing, they won't harm the economy.

2018-11-22 22:33:40 UTC  

They'll just remain poor.

2018-11-22 22:34:03 UTC  

It lowers the social health

2018-11-22 22:34:16 UTC  

So the issue isn't welfare?

2018-11-22 22:34:17 UTC  

Which is proven to reduce morale

2018-11-22 22:34:36 UTC  

Welfare is an issue because it doesn't sufficiently lift people out of poverty

2018-11-22 22:34:53 UTC  

Therefore it's a misallocation of money and resources

2018-11-22 22:34:56 UTC  

So then why have welfare in the first place?

2018-11-22 22:34:59 UTC  

It's a waste

2018-11-22 22:35:15 UTC  

@MinecraftMemer because it's good for re-election

2018-11-22 22:35:38 UTC  

So you're suggesting elections are the problems?

2018-11-22 22:35:38 UTC  

I prefer job fairs over welfare

2018-11-22 22:35:50 UTC  

Elections are a problem yes

2018-11-22 22:35:58 UTC  

Temporarily anyways

2018-11-22 22:36:11 UTC  

Democracy is dangerous to competent statecraft because it forces every political decision to be lowered to a level of stupidity that the masses can understand.

2018-11-22 22:36:18 UTC  

If welfare is intrinsic to democracies, then it would be logical to have a different style of government.

2018-11-22 22:36:34 UTC  

In that case, we would have monarchies.

2018-11-22 22:36:43 UTC  

I disagree