Message from @el pebble

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2018-12-06 16:43:09 UTC  

I’m not advocating for a completely free market

2018-12-06 16:43:13 UTC  

But considerably close

2018-12-06 16:43:19 UTC  

But with good immigration laws

2018-12-06 16:43:23 UTC  

Cost advantages literally make natural monopolies

2018-12-06 16:43:27 UTC  

Competition doesn't exist

2018-12-06 16:43:32 UTC  

Yes it does

2018-12-06 16:43:42 UTC  

Atleast in free/more freer market societies

2018-12-06 16:43:50 UTC  

Cost advantages do not make natural monopolies

2018-12-06 16:43:52 UTC  

That’s a myth

2018-12-06 16:44:02 UTC  

state intervention makes the monopolies with high barriers

2018-12-06 16:44:36 UTC  

Barriers to industry are almost completely natural

2018-12-06 16:44:41 UTC  

No state intervention can sometimes bring problems to the state itself.

2018-12-06 16:44:54 UTC  

you’re telling me the minimum wage, strong regulation, taxation are natural ?

2018-12-06 16:44:57 UTC  

right

2018-12-06 16:45:01 UTC  

this constantly circles the same drain, there is nothing to stop a monopoly from forming unless the market magically prevents massive accumulation of wealth through some magical force that doesnt exist.

"the exclusive possession or control of the supply of or trade in a commodity or service."
-Monopoly

Someone can have exclusive control of a service even with farmer joe competing because he is irrelevent and cannot compete.

2018-12-06 16:45:10 UTC  

Those aren't the majority of monopolizing features

2018-12-06 16:45:16 UTC  

@Bogatyr Bogumir then thing stopping a monopoly is competition

2018-12-06 16:45:23 UTC  

Completion forms with low barriers to entry

2018-12-06 16:45:30 UTC  

competition eventually produces a winner

2018-12-06 16:45:37 UTC  

That’s why the state needs to stop intervention

2018-12-06 16:45:37 UTC  

You argue dishonestly as if the capitalism s not ingrained with state power on purpose

2018-12-06 16:45:40 UTC  

No they just compete

2018-12-06 16:45:41 UTC  

lol

2018-12-06 16:45:44 UTC  

^

2018-12-06 16:45:59 UTC  

Competition doesn't do anything

2018-12-06 16:46:01 UTC  

Because the capitalism you speak of doesn’t exist and the state isn’t a thing in capitalism

2018-12-06 16:46:02 UTC  

Yes it does

2018-12-06 16:46:08 UTC  

G2g

2018-12-06 16:46:11 UTC  

Be back in a bit

2018-12-06 16:46:13 UTC  

The state is the entirety of capitalism

2018-12-06 16:46:51 UTC  

How is it the entirety of capitalism?

2018-12-06 16:47:18 UTC  

Capitalism is a very self-looking system, bringing freedom to the individuals.

2018-12-06 16:47:37 UTC  

The state isn't of primary importance in the Capitalist System's markets.

2018-12-06 16:48:30 UTC  

Capitalism did not become engendered until the English Gentry took land from communal peasants and used a process of enclosure on it

2018-12-06 16:49:02 UTC  

Capitalism is not natural

2018-12-06 16:49:30 UTC  

No part of modern civilization is "natural"

2018-12-06 16:49:38 UTC  

^

2018-12-06 16:50:12 UTC  

Modern civilization is the result of capitalism

2018-12-06 16:50:46 UTC  

modern civilization and capitalism are the result of technological advance

2018-12-06 16:51:13 UTC  

Not true

2018-12-06 16:51:29 UTC  

True.