Message from @ritasuma

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2018-12-07 16:08:52 UTC  

I wrote a massive thing about it but I’m on my phone rn

2018-12-07 16:08:55 UTC  
2018-12-07 16:08:55 UTC  

No they didn’t lol

2018-12-07 16:08:59 UTC  

Like destroying workers unions

2018-12-07 16:09:00 UTC  

@sɪᴅɪsɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀᴇ it still has widespread private property

2018-12-07 16:09:03 UTC  

making it capitalist

2018-12-07 16:09:04 UTC  

Companies were regulated by time

2018-12-07 16:09:05 UTC  

That was massively beneficial for the companies

2018-12-07 16:09:07 UTC  

Doesn’t matter

2018-12-07 16:09:17 UTC  

And that’s not capitalist because there was barely any private property rights

2018-12-07 16:09:21 UTC  

They were over regulated by the state

2018-12-07 16:09:28 UTC  

That’s like saying Venezuela is capitalist

2018-12-07 16:09:29 UTC  

So let me get this straight

2018-12-07 16:09:29 UTC  

It’s not

2018-12-07 16:09:32 UTC  

it is

2018-12-07 16:09:36 UTC  

It is for a start

2018-12-07 16:09:36 UTC  

venezuela is capitalist

2018-12-07 16:09:39 UTC  

lol

2018-12-07 16:09:41 UTC  

No it’s not

2018-12-07 16:09:42 UTC  

For one

2018-12-07 16:09:44 UTC  

workers do not own the means of production

2018-12-07 16:09:46 UTC  

the market does

2018-12-07 16:09:47 UTC  

It’s over controlled by the state

2018-12-07 16:09:51 UTC  

And that’s not how socialism is defined

2018-12-07 16:09:55 UTC  

it is

2018-12-07 16:09:58 UTC  

It’s either collectively owned by the state or workers

2018-12-07 16:09:58 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/452955220473806859/520633078939385859/the_opiate_of_the_people.png

2018-12-07 16:09:59 UTC  

And second of all, even though the industry was totally private. Which means not state run and run for profit.

2018-12-07 16:10:01 UTC  

Is socialism

2018-12-07 16:10:01 UTC  

and the state controls it

2018-12-07 16:10:01 UTC  

socialism is when the workers own the means of production

2018-12-07 16:10:05 UTC  

regulation/ownership

2018-12-07 16:10:15 UTC  

Because the state controls the economy through strong intervention

2018-12-07 16:10:20 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/452955220473806859/520633170887180293/by-tim-buckley-ahh-my-spoon-www-ctrlaltdel-online-com-33270111.png

2018-12-07 16:10:23 UTC  

Socialism isn’t just when the government regulates companies

2018-12-07 16:10:24 UTC  

Socialism is where the MoP is collectively owned by the stage or workers

2018-12-07 16:10:29 UTC  

I never said that

2018-12-07 16:10:35 UTC  

I said the state over controls the economy

2018-12-07 16:10:41 UTC  

Which it did in nazi Germany and Venezuela

2018-12-07 16:10:43 UTC  

It’s when companies are destroyed and either replaced with state run industries or become worker controlled

2018-12-07 16:10:49 UTC  

And the fact that Venezuela’s economic freedom is below repressed