Message from @Bernard
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State socialism is socialism
What the fuck are you talking about
LOL
it can
mutualism for example
free market can still exist in socialist societies
Complete contradiction
@Diode over regulated by the state
Price controls etc
that’s socialist
read up on mutualism friend
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means of production are completely owned by the workers
For a start you haven’t actually said any evidence of this so called overregulation
however, a free market is omnipresent
You’ve said things that aren’t indicative of capitalism or socialism
You’ve said things that are generally authoritarian
That’s not how that works
The regulation was all applied to the workers
“What Mises identified was that private ownership of the means of production existed in name only under the Nazis and that the actual substance of ownership of the means of production resided in the German government. For it was the German government and not the nominal private owners that exercised all of the substantive powers of ownership: it, not the nominal private owners, decided what was to be produced, in what quantity, by what methods, and to whom it was to be distributed, as well as what prices would be charged and what wages would be paid, and what dividends or other income the nominal private owners would be permitted to receive.”
@ritasuma there would be no free market then
lol
To reduce worker power was massively important
Except hitler created trade unions
Keeping the companies secure and dominant over employees was essential
German Labour Front
ahah
Yes he did, and they were massively beneficial to the companies again
plus i dont know enough
But yes companies were over regulated
They had no independent complaints process
the state controlled the economy big time due to state intervention
They could not strike
private property is always defined by the government because u rely on its protection to retain ur property unless ur living in anarchism <:GWfroggyBlobThonk:400751075776397322>
They were entirely dominated by the Nazis and they would force people to join the party to be accepted
what were dominated by the Nazis ?
The trade unions
Yes they created them