Message from @ritasuma

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2018-12-07 16:12:17 UTC  

economic freedom doesnt mean much

2018-12-07 16:12:18 UTC  

Extremely supportive

2018-12-07 16:12:19 UTC  

Hi

2018-12-07 16:12:27 UTC  

Except they were extremely regulated

2018-12-07 16:12:27 UTC  

a mutualist society would have high levels of economic freedom

2018-12-07 16:12:31 UTC  

yet would be socialist

2018-12-07 16:12:32 UTC  

Nope

2018-12-07 16:12:46 UTC  

The privatised steel industry was massive for Hitler

2018-12-07 16:12:49 UTC  

^

2018-12-07 16:12:50 UTC  

It appears one doesn’t understand economic freedom

2018-12-07 16:12:50 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/452955220473806859/520633799051182080/1543178592116.png

2018-12-07 16:12:56 UTC  

he mass privatized and supported krupp and all

2018-12-07 16:12:57 UTC  

And he over controlled it though state intervention

2018-12-07 16:13:03 UTC  

state/socialism

2018-12-07 16:13:03 UTC  

so it was only privatisation in name

2018-12-07 16:13:10 UTC  

free market can still exist in socialist societies

2018-12-07 16:13:10 UTC  

State socialism is socialism

2018-12-07 16:13:13 UTC  

What the fuck are you talking about

2018-12-07 16:13:14 UTC  

LOL

2018-12-07 16:13:19 UTC  

it can

2018-12-07 16:13:21 UTC  

mutualism for example

2018-12-07 16:13:21 UTC  

free market can still exist in socialist societies

2018-12-07 16:13:25 UTC  

Complete contradiction

2018-12-07 16:13:30 UTC  

@Diode over regulated by the state

2018-12-07 16:13:32 UTC  

Price controls etc

2018-12-07 16:13:37 UTC  

that’s socialist

2018-12-07 16:13:38 UTC  

read up on mutualism friend

2018-12-07 16:13:47 UTC  

1 sec lemme quote

2018-12-07 16:13:52 UTC  

means of production are completely owned by the workers

2018-12-07 16:13:55 UTC  

For a start you haven’t actually said any evidence of this so called overregulation

2018-12-07 16:13:58 UTC  

however, a free market is omnipresent

2018-12-07 16:14:08 UTC  

You’ve said things that aren’t indicative of capitalism or socialism

2018-12-07 16:14:14 UTC  

You’ve said things that are generally authoritarian

2018-12-07 16:14:22 UTC  

That’s not how that works

2018-12-07 16:14:31 UTC  

The regulation was all applied to the workers

2018-12-07 16:14:35 UTC  

“What Mises identified was that private ownership of the means of production existed in name only under the Nazis and that the actual substance of ownership of the means of production resided in the German government. For it was the German government and not the nominal private owners that exercised all of the substantive powers of ownership: it, not the nominal private owners, decided what was to be produced, in what quantity, by what methods, and to whom it was to be distributed, as well as what prices would be charged and what wages would be paid, and what dividends or other income the nominal private owners would be permitted to receive.”

2018-12-07 16:14:38 UTC  

thats a misrepresentation tho because mutualism is market-neutral

2018-12-07 16:14:41 UTC  
2018-12-07 16:14:45 UTC  

@ritasuma there would be no free market then

2018-12-07 16:14:46 UTC  

lol

2018-12-07 16:14:47 UTC  

To reduce worker power was massively important