Message from @sɪᴅɪsɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀᴇ

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2018-12-07 22:14:56 UTC  

Because they can't invent it

2018-12-07 22:15:03 UTC  

sid defines socialism as having to do with "business freedom" as he perceived it

2018-12-07 22:15:10 UTC  

aka he's dumb

2018-12-07 22:16:27 UTC  

@ritasuma that’s not what socialism is

2018-12-07 22:16:50 UTC  

Socialism is when the MoP is collectively owned by the state or workers

2018-12-07 22:17:01 UTC  

It is characterised by strong state control of the economy even if the MoP is private

2018-12-07 22:17:22 UTC  

socialism means there is no private means of production

2018-12-07 22:17:28 UTC  

that’s why Venezuela and other socialist countries, e.g tongo are socialist

2018-12-07 22:17:29 UTC  

state control is not socialistic

2018-12-07 22:17:33 UTC  

no that’s communism

2018-12-07 22:17:35 UTC  

yes it is

2018-12-07 22:17:35 UTC  

no it isnt

2018-12-07 22:17:36 UTC  

lool

2018-12-07 22:17:41 UTC  

not neccesarily

2018-12-07 22:17:42 UTC  

That’s literally the definition of socialism

2018-12-07 22:17:46 UTC  

State or worker controlled

2018-12-07 22:17:48 UTC  

Yes

2018-12-07 22:17:48 UTC  

things like libertartian socialism is a thing

2018-12-07 22:17:50 UTC  

you picked a definition on the internet

2018-12-07 22:17:53 UTC  

state control isnt neccesaraly socialistic

2018-12-07 22:17:54 UTC  

Strong state intervention of the economy is socialism

2018-12-07 22:17:58 UTC  

its not

2018-12-07 22:18:00 UTC  

Libertarian socialism OOL

2018-12-07 22:18:01 UTC  

there is nothing socialistic about state intervention

2018-12-07 22:18:02 UTC  

yes it is

2018-12-07 22:18:07 UTC  

That is literally socialism

2018-12-07 22:18:11 UTC  

I said strong state intervention

2018-12-07 22:18:14 UTC  

private property was created on state intervention

2018-12-07 22:18:19 UTC  

But state intervention is a socialist policy

2018-12-07 22:18:21 UTC  

when the workers own the means of production but the state has few powers

2018-12-07 22:18:22 UTC  

its not

2018-12-07 22:18:22 UTC  

through enclosure of formerly communal property of peasants in england

2018-12-07 22:18:22 UTC  

aristocatic communism when?!

2018-12-07 22:18:25 UTC  

private property =/= state

2018-12-07 22:18:28 UTC  

state intervention is not socialistic

2018-12-07 22:18:29 UTC  

Socialism is when the workers own the means of production

2018-12-07 22:18:39 UTC  

Yes it is

2018-12-07 22:18:43 UTC  

there is nothing socialistic about state intervention

2018-12-07 22:18:43 UTC  

State intervention is socialistic

2018-12-07 22:18:46 UTC  

^ this fuck the USSR and fuck marxism

2018-12-07 22:18:47 UTC  

@Drifter or state