tbh its all a push

capitalists say fascism is socialisty to attack socialists

socialists say fascism is capitalist to attack capitalists

its stupid

Fascism and Communism both come from the same toxic enlightenment core.

and the entire debate is quite idiotic

And yes, Woltros

you're very right

it's just arguing semantics, isn't it?

yeah exactly

it changes nothing really

except its about calling the other side a fascist really

Any area of the political spectrum can fall back under fascism

Unless you talk about primitivism

Because they can't invent it

sid defines socialism as having to do with "business freedom" as he perceived it

aka he's dumb

@ritasuma that’s not what socialism is

Socialism is when the MoP is collectively owned by the state or workers

It is characterised by strong state control of the economy even if the MoP is private

socialism means there is no private means of production

that’s why Venezuela and other socialist countries, e.g tongo are socialist

state control is not socialistic

no that’s communism

yes it is

no it isnt

lool

not neccesarily

That’s literally the definition of socialism

State or worker controlled

Yes

things like libertartian socialism is a thing

you picked a definition on the internet

state control isnt neccesaraly socialistic

Strong state intervention of the economy is socialism

its not

Libertarian socialism OOL

there is nothing socialistic about state intervention

yes it is

That is literally socialism

I said strong state intervention