ye

yeah this was the measurement i meant

sorry if i wasn't clear

@lola I think the only thing we can agree on is that we will disagree? Y'know whut I mean? ... it's like @Similar Scowl offered- my thought on that is when in Rome do as the Romans do... As for the economy, I just think 'the love of money..'
*Shrugs.. in any case if I were to be a visitor in either of your homes I would be a decent guest, if I had some kinda moral problem with ya I just wouldn't have anything to do with ya.

ye then you would be right

@unit wth is that supposed to mean

@Similar Scowl what was about Obama then?

How did you draw that conclusion

@unit so you mean like, if country A's government criticizes B's government, government B's should prohibit A's citizens from entering the country?

just to clarify

He does

He doesn't understand why they would allow that

@Lola ah, I think it means we probably won't have much to do with each other.. @Similar Scowl yup

@sɪᴅɪsɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀᴇ Obama just continued the foreign policy from previous administrations. foreign policy in the US tends to remain consistent regardless of dems or GOP in power. the opposite happens in domestic affaris

the last time the US formally declared war on a country was during ww2

Tourism plays a big role in the economy of a lot of countries

because declaring war is prohibited by the UN charter. so countries just go around it and dont declare war

Continuing foreign policy from previous admins doesn't make it okay

And us declared war with Iraq

Why would they put that source of income away

i never said it was ethical or morally correct

I'm saying it was a bad policy

He illegally started a war

illegally as in no congressional approval

i'd agree that it is counter-productive as of this time and age

Libya and Syria

first of all, the US didnt start a war in libya or syria, the US isnt at war with syria or lybia, but has carried out operations in both countries and supplied sides in conflicts in these countries @sɪᴅɪsɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀᴇ

@unit can you explain to me what for you makes it viable for a country to deny tourism

it sounds like semantics but in IR it matters a lot

@Similar Scowl yes

"intervention"

which was

illegal

is it illegal to sponsor belligerants in wars abroad?

he didn't "sponsor"

(it's not)

give me a specific example so we can actually get to the details and i can be more useful to the conversation

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/may/15/irs-ap-benghanzi-not-real-scandals

@Lola probably not, they got these things called consulate offices in each other's countries, y'know? Like how Assange is hiding out in one of 'em.. but hey, someone makes a few shekels along the way so it's all good

@sɪᴅɪsɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀᴇ so you want to focus on libya?

we can do that