Message from @Alric the Bretwalda

Discord ID: 569932825747259392


2019-04-22 16:34:05 UTC  

But I promise you I shall not leave this world until my dream has been achieved.

2019-04-22 16:34:29 UTC  

English nationalism is suppressed more than any other European country.

2019-04-22 16:34:43 UTC  

I shall not allow my nation to fall.

2019-04-22 16:35:08 UTC  

You'll be welcome to visit when victory has been achieved.

2019-04-22 16:36:35 UTC  

A new national flag is needed though. The flag of St George is foreign to us, unbeknownst to many.

2019-04-22 16:36:50 UTC  

I've got it all mapped out. Don't worry.

2019-04-22 16:39:40 UTC  

Lmao

2019-04-22 16:39:41 UTC  

Okay

2019-04-22 17:01:15 UTC  

@Deleted User I will be honest though. Religion is a tough one for me. I was raised in a Protestant home, some of my family were non-conformists, I.e militant Puritans. Catholicism often comes across as too foreign, too superstitious in my perceptions. You know the Latin-type countries and I've met some really terrible "Catholics" especially Irish who are literally just savage dogs. I have seen how Rome have overly interfered in our affairs and made attacks against our own people in history. There is a sort of chasm between the Nordic and the Med.

2019-04-22 17:02:20 UTC  

But then there are other times where I must say Catholic women were more impressive to me than a lot of the whores calling themselves Prots or whatever.

2019-04-22 17:04:57 UTC  

However, again I see a lot of Catholicism placing too much emphasis on Aristotle and Aquinas who I think to make some very bad points. And then there is the monarchical path and I must say I'm more inclined to favour the Orthodox conciliar approach.

2019-04-22 17:05:11 UTC  

Super conflicted at present. @Deleted User

2019-04-22 17:06:21 UTC  

The protestant Irish are the same, that's nothing to do with the fact that they are Catholic

2019-04-22 17:07:18 UTC  

You're no idea how many LGBT Irish Catholics I have met.

2019-04-22 17:07:23 UTC  

Protestantism, besides going against Biblical teachings, has always had too little impact on the morality of it's populations, and serves more as an excuse than a way of life

2019-04-22 17:07:57 UTC  

The modern day Catholic Church has become corrupt, that is true, but that's not a fault with the Religion itself, and more the fact it was a large target for certain groups due to the influence it can have over places such as Spain

2019-04-22 17:08:19 UTC  

I certainly see how Protestantism has totally disregarded religion. We were simple farmers, but allowing people to interpret religion has wrought anarchy.

2019-04-22 17:08:20 UTC  

Mediteranians who follow Catholicism and even Eastern Orthodoxy tend to take their religion a lot more seriously, and it shows in the culture

2019-04-22 17:09:03 UTC  

That's why you need Papal guidance

2019-04-22 17:09:07 UTC  

I still think Orthodoxy may be a better path for English though.

2019-04-22 17:09:34 UTC  

Some of their criticisms of Roman Catholicism do appeal to me.

2019-04-22 17:09:44 UTC  

Having a figurehead who is closer to God, and can serve as an inspiration can only bring about good

2019-04-22 17:10:26 UTC  

I agree on that we need a proper priesthood. We can't be having average Joe's giving sermons.

2019-04-22 17:10:36 UTC  

Look at Pius XII who supported nations such as Spain in their time of need, and helped strengthen the nations faith

2019-04-22 17:11:06 UTC  

He called Franco "The savior of civilization"

2019-04-22 17:11:53 UTC  

What do you have to say then regarding England and Germany's disgruntlement with Rome, as well as their sister countries within Europe (Scandinavia, Netherlands, etc...)

2019-04-22 17:12:24 UTC  

Do you not believe that sometimes Popes went too far?

2019-04-22 17:12:47 UTC  

Depends on which ones you are talking about

2019-04-22 17:13:54 UTC  

I don't think the divide between Protestantism and Catholicism was the fault of the Catholics if that's what you're asking

2019-04-22 17:13:56 UTC  

Well by biggest resentment would be the Norman conquest. We have never actually fully recovered in restoring our ancient traditions. Protestantism of 17th century tapped into it, but went down another path.

2019-04-22 17:16:07 UTC  

I believe that there were errors within Medieval Europe, that Popes abused their positions. That Protestantism was stimulated by certain things such as nationalist renewal and that Catholic Church antagonised some of these notions.

2019-04-22 17:16:30 UTC  

Half of England wasn't even Catholic at the time

2019-04-22 17:16:36 UTC  

Worshipping some Celtic variation

2019-04-22 17:16:56 UTC  

In Norman time you mean?

2019-04-22 17:16:59 UTC  

Yes

2019-04-22 17:17:31 UTC  

England clearly had no means of control over it's own populations religion

2019-04-22 17:17:40 UTC  

No unification

2019-04-22 17:17:52 UTC  

I don't like the French, but I can agree with a unification of the peoples religion

2019-04-22 17:17:56 UTC  

There was some Celtic influence yes, but was predominantly Roman. Don't forget England was a heptarchy and religions conversions usually began with the kings themselves being converted.

2019-04-22 17:18:21 UTC  

And Alfred who unified England was Catholic.

2019-04-22 17:18:56 UTC  

We have our own affairs, Shade. Enlisting foreigners to attack our own people is treason.