Message from @Alric the Bretwalda
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I still think Orthodoxy may be a better path for English though.
Some of their criticisms of Roman Catholicism do appeal to me.
Having a figurehead who is closer to God, and can serve as an inspiration can only bring about good
I agree on that we need a proper priesthood. We can't be having average Joe's giving sermons.
Look at Pius XII who supported nations such as Spain in their time of need, and helped strengthen the nations faith
He called Franco "The savior of civilization"
What do you have to say then regarding England and Germany's disgruntlement with Rome, as well as their sister countries within Europe (Scandinavia, Netherlands, etc...)
Do you not believe that sometimes Popes went too far?
Depends on which ones you are talking about
I don't think the divide between Protestantism and Catholicism was the fault of the Catholics if that's what you're asking
Well by biggest resentment would be the Norman conquest. We have never actually fully recovered in restoring our ancient traditions. Protestantism of 17th century tapped into it, but went down another path.
I believe that there were errors within Medieval Europe, that Popes abused their positions. That Protestantism was stimulated by certain things such as nationalist renewal and that Catholic Church antagonised some of these notions.
Half of England wasn't even Catholic at the time
Worshipping some Celtic variation
In Norman time you mean?
Yes
England clearly had no means of control over it's own populations religion
No unification
I don't like the French, but I can agree with a unification of the peoples religion
There was some Celtic influence yes, but was predominantly Roman. Don't forget England was a heptarchy and religions conversions usually began with the kings themselves being converted.
We have our own affairs, Shade. Enlisting foreigners to attack our own people is treason.
This is how Catholicism became viewed as anti-nationalist.
I believe the Pope gave his approval based off opportunism and also to reign in on certain things since the schism had recently occurred.
The French are pretty filthy. The Anglo may have varies political issues (I.e unhealthy tradition of democracy), but I have to say at least we didn't engage in race mixing like the Continental nations when colonising.
I think the French themselves are oppurtunistic, I doubt the Pope was
Also the people that engaged in that were the people considered degenerates before even moving there, and no-one supports them
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