Message from @fen

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2018-06-02 23:07:07 UTC  

I s that why google engineers are so unhappy?

Literal capitalism in 1800s 🤣

2018-06-02 23:07:11 UTC  

Someone drank Marxism.

2018-06-02 23:07:27 UTC  

And hasn't moved with the times.

They only changed because labour movements fought for change

2018-06-02 23:07:38 UTC  

Really?

2018-06-02 23:07:49 UTC  

Wouldn't the workers organize themselves alone and refuse to work?

2018-06-02 23:07:51 UTC  

>the times

2018-06-02 23:07:53 UTC  

@karbon No, it isn't. I don't know of a single Marxist that is a proponent of "primitive communism". That is a phase of historical development which has come and gone, and could never be applicable to an industrialized society. Full Communism entails a post-scarcity society succeeding socialism which itself succeeds capitalism.

2018-06-02 23:08:04 UTC  

An union is not exclusive right of marxists

2018-06-02 23:08:05 UTC  

>says the capitalist

Capitalists only make concessions when pressure is put on them

2018-06-02 23:08:21 UTC  

I don't consider myself capitalist.

2018-06-02 23:08:24 UTC  

Or Communist.

2018-06-02 23:08:27 UTC  

Is that a thing exclusive to capitalists?

2018-06-02 23:08:38 UTC  

I hate both sides for different reasons.

2018-06-02 23:08:43 UTC  

Doesn't the democratic state only change when pressure is put on it?

Wtf do you mean @fen

Democratic states are dictatorship of the bourgeoisie

2018-06-02 23:08:59 UTC  

@Deleted User post-scarcity isn't possible without a controlled population, lest we bleed this planet of all its resources

2018-06-02 23:09:04 UTC  

Workers have always organized themselves, organizing in groups is not something invented by marxists

2018-06-02 23:09:17 UTC  

whoa, it's almost as if **the high officials are elected by the people**

2018-06-02 23:09:19 UTC  

😮

2018-06-02 23:09:20 UTC  

"muh bourgeoisie"

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/450683222653796353/452609696524926977/unknown.png

2018-06-02 23:09:27 UTC  

If you're a capitalist you support expolitation of the 3rd world

2018-06-02 23:09:32 UTC  

There's no way around it

2018-06-02 23:09:41 UTC  

@When Things Aren't Right Go Left That's if you're a globalist... Dumbass...

2018-06-02 23:09:43 UTC  

exploitaition of the third world?

2018-06-02 23:09:44 UTC  

tattoine doesnt matter

2018-06-02 23:09:47 UTC  

We all benefit from imperialism one way or another

2018-06-02 23:09:51 UTC  

^

2018-06-02 23:09:55 UTC  

@karbon Post-scarcity is possible when the productive forces have peaked and material abundance is the order of the day.

2018-06-02 23:10:00 UTC  

Did the debate finish

2018-06-02 23:10:01 UTC  

is ANY corporation forcing third world people to work for them?

Yes but there are those that fight our imperialism

2018-06-02 23:10:09 UTC  

Um

And thoses who let it happen

2018-06-02 23:10:19 UTC  

Post-Scracity isn't possible as we all have to work in some form or another.

2018-06-02 23:10:25 UTC  

To create something for another person.