water kills martians

@QuinnTheQuartz or crowds of "whiz kids" waving around soviet flags yet saying they are not communists

@karbon How about non-capitalist societies in which one needn't sell their labor power to an employer in order to survive? Take for example a hunter-gatherer society, the kind of society in which humans lived for much of our history, and which can aptly be described as "primitive communism,".

Water burns martians.

Communism is the same way.

T_T

@QuinnTheQuartz False

@Deleted User so communism is a caveman ideology

gotcha

Communism is like Capitalist Labor, who can form the most unions can have the monolopy on resources.

shiiiiiiit cyber

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Capitalism, in its pure form, is a formula for oligarchies to exploit the poor. Given that capitalism is driven by profits and efficiency alone, human and worker’s rights are often ignored for maximum factory efficiency. This allows for attrocious working conditions, massive unsustainable exploitations of natural and human resources.

Only worker movements changed that ^

Wrong, your workers do not perform as well under bad conditions of work

where did you get that info?

I s that why google engineers are so unhappy?

Literal capitalism in 1800s 🤣

Someone drank Marxism.

And hasn't moved with the times.

They only changed because labour movements fought for change

Really?

Wouldn't the workers organize themselves alone and refuse to work?

>the times

@karbon No, it isn't. I don't know of a single Marxist that is a proponent of "primitive communism". That is a phase of historical development which has come and gone, and could never be applicable to an industrialized society. Full Communism entails a post-scarcity society succeeding socialism which itself succeeds capitalism.

An union is not exclusive right of marxists

>says the capitalist

Capitalists only make concessions when pressure is put on them

I don't consider myself capitalist.

Or Communist.

Is that a thing exclusive to capitalists?

I hate both sides for different reasons.

Doesn't the democratic state only change when pressure is put on it?

Wtf do you mean @fen

Democratic states are dictatorship of the bourgeoisie

@Deleted User post-scarcity isn't possible without a controlled population, lest we bleed this planet of all its resources

Workers have always organized themselves, organizing in groups is not something invented by marxists

whoa, it's almost as if **the high officials are elected by the people**

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"muh bourgeoisie"