Message from @QuinnTheQuartz

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2018-06-02 23:07:51 UTC  

>the times

2018-06-02 23:07:53 UTC  

@karbon No, it isn't. I don't know of a single Marxist that is a proponent of "primitive communism". That is a phase of historical development which has come and gone, and could never be applicable to an industrialized society. Full Communism entails a post-scarcity society succeeding socialism which itself succeeds capitalism.

2018-06-02 23:08:04 UTC  

An union is not exclusive right of marxists

2018-06-02 23:08:05 UTC  

>says the capitalist

Capitalists only make concessions when pressure is put on them

2018-06-02 23:08:21 UTC  

I don't consider myself capitalist.

2018-06-02 23:08:24 UTC  

Or Communist.

2018-06-02 23:08:27 UTC  

Is that a thing exclusive to capitalists?

2018-06-02 23:08:38 UTC  

I hate both sides for different reasons.

2018-06-02 23:08:43 UTC  

Doesn't the democratic state only change when pressure is put on it?

Wtf do you mean @fen

Democratic states are dictatorship of the bourgeoisie

2018-06-02 23:08:59 UTC  

@Deleted User post-scarcity isn't possible without a controlled population, lest we bleed this planet of all its resources

2018-06-02 23:09:04 UTC  

Workers have always organized themselves, organizing in groups is not something invented by marxists

2018-06-02 23:09:17 UTC  

whoa, it's almost as if **the high officials are elected by the people**

2018-06-02 23:09:19 UTC  

😮

2018-06-02 23:09:20 UTC  

"muh bourgeoisie"

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/450683222653796353/452609696524926977/unknown.png

2018-06-02 23:09:27 UTC  

If you're a capitalist you support expolitation of the 3rd world

2018-06-02 23:09:32 UTC  

There's no way around it

2018-06-02 23:09:41 UTC  

@When Things Aren't Right Go Left That's if you're a globalist... Dumbass...

2018-06-02 23:09:43 UTC  

exploitaition of the third world?

2018-06-02 23:09:44 UTC  

tattoine doesnt matter

2018-06-02 23:09:47 UTC  

We all benefit from imperialism one way or another

2018-06-02 23:09:51 UTC  

^

2018-06-02 23:09:55 UTC  

@karbon Post-scarcity is possible when the productive forces have peaked and material abundance is the order of the day.

2018-06-02 23:10:00 UTC  

Did the debate finish

2018-06-02 23:10:01 UTC  

is ANY corporation forcing third world people to work for them?

Yes but there are those that fight our imperialism

2018-06-02 23:10:09 UTC  

Um

And thoses who let it happen

2018-06-02 23:10:19 UTC  

Post-Scracity isn't possible as we all have to work in some form or another.

2018-06-02 23:10:25 UTC  

To create something for another person.

»automation

2018-06-02 23:10:43 UTC  
2018-06-02 23:10:47 UTC  

Capitalism is kinda international by nature bud

2018-06-02 23:10:50 UTC  

Oh right

2018-06-02 23:10:55 UTC  

@Deleted User no matter how many of our jobs are replaced by robots and the resources derived from automation are redistributed equally, the amount of resources on this planet will remain limited and constant

2018-06-02 23:10:55 UTC  

What is the problem with automation? Would you like people to continue working on extremely mundane activities?

2018-06-02 23:10:59 UTC  

Not sure if you noticed