plus it's impossible to remove basic technology

So what technology are you against? Also you type pretty slow.

any technology which revokes a person's autonomy

if you have a car, and you can't live the life you do without it

you're reliant on it

that reliance at a global scale is the technoindustrial system

Not really. Most people I know arent reliant on cars.

was just an example lol

Then how about a better example?

would the people you know starve to death or experience a dramatic change to their lives if a massive EMP detonated above them?

if the answer is yes, they are reliant on the technology they use in their daily lives

finding sustinence in an urban environment without the fluid continuation of the system is extremely difficult

even in rural environments without proper survivalism skills

Technology has a weakness correct but that's the thing people are trying to advance more in technology.

Humans build their own environment.

ah yes technology is weak so we are trying to negate that weakness with more technology

Some technology is weak.

Depends on the weakness.

even beyond the pragmatic element to it, the power process is unfulfilled in a person that isn't autonomous

all technology on which people have a reliance to sustain their current lives is weak

plus the ecological damage the system exerts is insane

Then everyone is weak. Which clearly isnt true.

everyone who isn't autonomous is weak, correct

Technology doesn't disable autonomy. It merely encourages it.

that's actually the most retarded thing i think you've said

How else would I be having this discussion with you?

this discussion isn't proof of our autonomy, its just a surrogate activity that we spend our time doing being as there is nothing we need to do to sustain ourselves

it's proof that we arent autonomous actually

I dont need to go on this though.

i know

So yes I'm fully independent.

The thing is many wouldn't survive without all these measures in place, in older times you had to work a lot more to survive, which created a stronger population.

if you're fully independent, come back within a month without consuming anything which another person was involved in distributing or making

you go to the store and buy things the system puts there

that's how you live

you're not autonomous at all

Because of all of this technology and industry, it's incredibly easy for anyone to live, however they sign their lives away to industry, completely dependent on it.

Trading is pretty autonomous if you ask me.

And we all do it, really.

If I make a food and sell it in stores, isn’t it me putting it there, not the system

@FLanon that's right