Message from @gribos
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Because its a political simulator and because it's better to know fascists more.
No.
Anyway, what's the technoindustrial system?
Cmon, time is ticking.
the current system by which nearly the whole world operates: one reliant on industrialisation and technology
i was just a bit taken aback because its a strange question to ask
its in the name
Oh so that's what you mean.
I know but it depends on what you think the system is
So anprim essentially?
almost - anprim has implications that i don't really subscribe to, i don't think reverting to the stone age is practical. we can live relatively modern lives without relying on a massive industrial system for sustinence
plus it's impossible to remove basic technology
So what technology are you against? Also you type pretty slow.
any technology which revokes a person's autonomy
if you have a car, and you can't live the life you do without it
you're reliant on it
that reliance at a global scale is the technoindustrial system
Not really. Most people I know arent reliant on cars.
was just an example lol
Then how about a better example?
would the people you know starve to death or experience a dramatic change to their lives if a massive EMP detonated above them?
if the answer is yes, they are reliant on the technology they use in their daily lives
finding sustinence in an urban environment without the fluid continuation of the system is extremely difficult
even in rural environments without proper survivalism skills
Technology has a weakness correct but that's the thing people are trying to advance more in technology.
Humans build their own environment.
ah yes technology is weak so we are trying to negate that weakness with more technology
Some technology is weak.
Depends on the weakness.
even beyond the pragmatic element to it, the power process is unfulfilled in a person that isn't autonomous
all technology on which people have a reliance to sustain their current lives is weak
plus the ecological damage the system exerts is insane
Then everyone is weak. Which clearly isnt true.
everyone who isn't autonomous is weak, correct
Technology doesn't disable autonomy. It merely encourages it.
that's actually the most retarded thing i think you've said
How else would I be having this discussion with you?
this discussion isn't proof of our autonomy, its just a surrogate activity that we spend our time doing being as there is nothing we need to do to sustain ourselves
it's proof that we arent autonomous actually
I dont need to go on this though.
i know