Message from @gribos

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2018-06-09 16:51:03 UTC  

Because its a political simulator and because it's better to know fascists more.

2018-06-09 16:51:30 UTC  

No.

2018-06-09 16:51:33 UTC  

Anyway, what's the technoindustrial system?

2018-06-09 16:53:24 UTC  

Cmon, time is ticking.

2018-06-09 16:53:42 UTC  

the current system by which nearly the whole world operates: one reliant on industrialisation and technology

2018-06-09 16:53:56 UTC  

i was just a bit taken aback because its a strange question to ask

2018-06-09 16:53:58 UTC  

its in the name

2018-06-09 16:54:05 UTC  

Oh so that's what you mean.

2018-06-09 16:54:20 UTC  

I know but it depends on what you think the system is

2018-06-09 16:54:48 UTC  

So anprim essentially?

2018-06-09 16:57:22 UTC  

almost - anprim has implications that i don't really subscribe to, i don't think reverting to the stone age is practical. we can live relatively modern lives without relying on a massive industrial system for sustinence

2018-06-09 16:57:46 UTC  

plus it's impossible to remove basic technology

2018-06-09 16:58:09 UTC  

So what technology are you against? Also you type pretty slow.

2018-06-09 16:58:47 UTC  

any technology which revokes a person's autonomy

2018-06-09 16:59:01 UTC  

if you have a car, and you can't live the life you do without it

2018-06-09 16:59:07 UTC  

you're reliant on it

2018-06-09 16:59:24 UTC  

that reliance at a global scale is the technoindustrial system

2018-06-09 16:59:34 UTC  

Not really. Most people I know arent reliant on cars.

2018-06-09 16:59:55 UTC  

was just an example lol

2018-06-09 17:00:14 UTC  

Then how about a better example?

2018-06-09 17:01:06 UTC  

would the people you know starve to death or experience a dramatic change to their lives if a massive EMP detonated above them?

2018-06-09 17:01:22 UTC  

if the answer is yes, they are reliant on the technology they use in their daily lives

2018-06-09 17:02:17 UTC  

finding sustinence in an urban environment without the fluid continuation of the system is extremely difficult

2018-06-09 17:02:29 UTC  

even in rural environments without proper survivalism skills

2018-06-09 17:03:06 UTC  

Technology has a weakness correct but that's the thing people are trying to advance more in technology.

2018-06-09 17:03:26 UTC  

Humans build their own environment.

2018-06-09 17:03:28 UTC  

ah yes technology is weak so we are trying to negate that weakness with more technology

2018-06-09 17:03:44 UTC  

Some technology is weak.

2018-06-09 17:04:02 UTC  

Depends on the weakness.

2018-06-09 17:04:10 UTC  

even beyond the pragmatic element to it, the power process is unfulfilled in a person that isn't autonomous

2018-06-09 17:04:50 UTC  

all technology on which people have a reliance to sustain their current lives is weak

2018-06-09 17:05:28 UTC  

plus the ecological damage the system exerts is insane

2018-06-09 17:05:33 UTC  

Then everyone is weak. Which clearly isnt true.

2018-06-09 17:05:50 UTC  

everyone who isn't autonomous is weak, correct

2018-06-09 17:06:32 UTC  

Technology doesn't disable autonomy. It merely encourages it.

2018-06-09 17:06:47 UTC  

that's actually the most retarded thing i think you've said

2018-06-09 17:06:57 UTC  

How else would I be having this discussion with you?

2018-06-09 17:08:02 UTC  

this discussion isn't proof of our autonomy, its just a surrogate activity that we spend our time doing being as there is nothing we need to do to sustain ourselves

2018-06-09 17:08:14 UTC  

it's proof that we arent autonomous actually

2018-06-09 17:08:40 UTC  

I dont need to go on this though.

2018-06-09 17:08:50 UTC  

i know