Message from @Yellowhammer

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2018-09-23 01:33:37 UTC  

tbh, I'm not hopeful for legislation this term

2018-09-23 01:33:44 UTC  

we can barely pass anything as is

2018-09-23 01:33:50 UTC  

and we are going to lose some seats

2018-09-23 01:33:52 UTC  

I would rather have Republican establishmentarian than socialism, wouldn’t you?

2018-09-23 01:34:07 UTC  

It all depends on the margin.

2018-09-23 01:34:22 UTC  

this election is about preventing Republicans from losing Committee control in the House, and maintaining enough control in the Senate to survive 2020 losses and to keep appointing justices

2018-09-23 01:34:27 UTC  

And personally, both of them are equally disgusting.

2018-09-23 01:34:43 UTC  

If we have a solid lead in the senate and maybe 224-226 house seats then I think we can get the wall and repeal obongo care.

2018-09-23 01:35:01 UTC  

No they aren’t, there’s a clear difference. They are far from equivalent

2018-09-23 01:35:14 UTC  

Can you say that while you have Ron Paul as your dp?

2018-09-23 01:35:18 UTC  

If we lose here then our next chance will be 2020-2022 where republicans win back the house and presumably hold the Senate.

2018-09-23 01:35:55 UTC  

They both present problems of similar gravity in different areas.

2018-09-23 01:35:55 UTC  

@[Lex] Yes. I hate both, but that doesn’t mean I don’t have a clear favorite week it comes to picking which one I would rather have

2018-09-23 01:35:59 UTC  

McCain single handily ruined Trump's first two years though.

2018-09-23 01:36:04 UTC  

^

2018-09-23 01:36:11 UTC  

McCain is an example of one of these gentlemen.

2018-09-23 01:36:49 UTC  

I'll be fighting tooth and nail for a Republican House and Senate but I won't lie and saying I don't have preferences.

2018-09-23 01:36:58 UTC  

Not all congressmen are born equal.

2018-09-23 01:37:42 UTC  

And I'll always support a Republican over a Democrat, some far more reluctantly than others however.

2018-09-23 01:38:00 UTC  

Honestly I don’t see a way in which we can retain the house. It just isn’t going to happen. The Dems already are already halfway there by means of auto gains like Comstock, LoBiondo, Blum, Paulsen, and Coffman’s districts

2018-09-23 01:38:13 UTC  

It’s borderline Safe D

2018-09-23 01:39:06 UTC  

and many of the Republicans who have a chance to survive, like Cuberlo, Hurd, Dunham, Valadao are moderates - so even if we hold the House, I'm not sure we get major legislation passed

2018-09-23 01:39:27 UTC  

the time for that, I think is 2020 - hope Trump coattails bring in enough new Republicans

2018-09-23 01:39:40 UTC  

Time is ticking, gentlemen.

2018-09-23 01:39:59 UTC  

That demographic clock.

2018-09-23 01:42:25 UTC  

The demographic clock can work in our advantage if we play our cards white. If republican vs democrat explicitly becomes whites vs everyone else then we can expect to break new ground up North. R vs D will never die, but the parties themselves are going to change immensely in the next 50 years.

2018-09-23 01:42:35 UTC  

play our cards right* lol

2018-09-23 01:43:15 UTC  

That's very true but we'll have to sweep ALL of them to compensate for Texas, Florida, Arizona, soon Georgia, North Carolina and so on.

2018-09-23 01:44:00 UTC  

I don't even know how you do that.

2018-09-23 01:44:16 UTC  

@Yellowhammer "Honestly I don’t see a way in which we can retain the house. It just isn’t going to happen"

bullshit. cut that talk out of this discord

2018-09-23 01:45:52 UTC  

Blacks aren't growing. GA and NC are safe. Best case scenario is TX and AZ being a pure toss up while the rust-belt flips decisively republican and possibly some of the Northwest and New England.

2018-09-23 01:47:25 UTC  

Mm, they're growing a few percentage points over each decade.

2018-09-23 01:48:07 UTC  

But Georgia and NC will likely be tossups very soon.

2018-09-23 01:48:50 UTC  

Well, perhaps not actually.

2018-09-23 01:48:59 UTC  

It's all about how fast whites become Republicans.

2018-09-23 01:51:56 UTC  

@Julien Blanc I don’t want that to happen, and it troubles me every day. It’s going to be horrible.
I just don’t lie to myself and give myself false hope.
It will probably be even worse than I think it’s going to be.

2018-09-23 01:52:36 UTC  

@Yellowhammer I think your predictions are considerably more pessimistic than even the raw numbers suggest.

2018-09-23 01:53:07 UTC  

Ultimately, we'll have to wait for election night but I highly doubt it'll be as bad as that.

2018-09-23 01:53:18 UTC  

Incumbents that poll below 50% within the MOE during wave years generally lose.

2018-09-23 01:53:40 UTC  

And we have lots of those...

2018-09-23 01:56:40 UTC  

There will be a few bright spots come November but ultimately the outcome is pretty much laid in stone. The writing is all over the wall.