Message from @Nuke
Discord ID: 420641856041517066
@Nuke Even Reagan didn't get NYC in 1984 (he got New York State though). Nixon managed to snag Queens in 1972....regardless, Trump can win New York State given certain factors. A shitty candidate like Flake being one of them
Indeed.
I could imagine Trump winning NYC against Flake only due to the hometown advantage.
this kid actually thinks Michelle Obama would beat Trump in 2020
And I can imagine Trump winning NY State as a whole of course
@Nuke What do you think the electoral map would look like if it was Michelle Obama vs Trump in 2020
imagine high turnout in negroid-states
women would vote for Michelle
Yeah unless she manages to become as unlikable to the public as Hillary did
one of Hillary's biggest disadvantages was that she was a white woman
blacks didn't show up for her
Win New York and Minnesota, lose Texas and maybe Arizona, ultimately this
Roughly
a Republican isn't winning NY
@🎃Boo-ton🎃 a Republican can definitely win NY lol
I live here
it's a +20 democrat state
so
unless nobody in long island votes, it's not going blue
@Nuke Upstate, Staten Island, Suffolk County are the red areas
But even NYC usually has Staten Island go red when a Republican is winning nationwide.
Suffolk too
@🎃Boo-ton🎃 Long Island is more red than NYC, what do you mean
you would need to see record turnout in Staten Island and Upstate,
and elections are determined by Manhattan, Kings, Queens, and the Bronx
literally nowhere elese matters
And you'll need to flip left-wing NYC suburbs
so, the pathway to winning New York State for a Republican is
-High turnout in Staten Island, Suffolk County, the red areas of Nassau County (maybe deporting MS-13 might go a long way there), the red areas of Upstate (there are some blue splotches like college towns and small cities)
-Winning moderates and independents in NYC
There are lots of Trump supporters in NYC who didn't bother voting in 2016
because they thought it was a lost cause
if you get those people to turn out as well, we have a fighting chance for NY in 2020
I noticed that.
there are a lot of Democrats in 2016 who didn't vote because they thought Hillary had it in the bag
If I recall correctly, the Trump campaign DOES THINK New York is IN PLAY in 2020
they'll show up in 2020
I can't remember where I read it though
There's a lot of Trump supporters in the backgrounds of NYC news reporting.
And yeah, Trump even campaigned there in 2016