It is hilarious that some people think flake could beat trump his own state and the county that got him elected don’t like him mainly because of him making himself out as the next Barry Goldwater while having a voting record that makes Pelosi look like Pat Buchanan

That's hilarious.

But to be fair

Most people don't imagine a Democrat losing NYC

@Nuke Even Reagan didn't get NYC in 1984 (he got New York State though). Nixon managed to snag Queens in 1972....regardless, Trump can win New York State given certain factors. A shitty candidate like Flake being one of them

Indeed.

I could imagine Trump winning NYC against Flake only due to the hometown advantage.

@Nuke https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAw1zApazMs

this kid actually thinks Michelle Obama would beat Trump in 2020

And I can imagine Trump winning NY State as a whole of course

@Nuke What do you think the electoral map would look like if it was Michelle Obama vs Trump in 2020

imagine high turnout in negroid-states

women would vote for Michelle

Yeah unless she manages to become as unlikable to the public as Hillary did

one of Hillary's biggest disadvantages was that she was a white woman

blacks didn't show up for her

Win New York and Minnesota, lose Texas and maybe Arizona, ultimately this

Roughly

a Republican isn't winning NY

@🎃Boo-ton🎃 a Republican can definitely win NY lol

I live here

it's a +20 democrat state

so

It really hinges on Upstate.

unless nobody in long island votes, it's not going blue

@Nuke Upstate, Staten Island, Suffolk County are the red areas

But even NYC usually has Staten Island go red when a Republican is winning nationwide.

Suffolk too

@🎃Boo-ton🎃 Long Island is more red than NYC, what do you mean

you would need to see record turnout in Staten Island and Upstate,

and elections are determined by Manhattan, Kings, Queens, and the Bronx

literally nowhere elese matters

And you'll need to flip left-wing NYC suburbs

so, the pathway to winning New York State for a Republican is

-High turnout in Staten Island, Suffolk County, the red areas of Nassau County (maybe deporting MS-13 might go a long way there), the red areas of Upstate (there are some blue splotches like college towns and small cities)

-Winning moderates and independents in NYC

There are lots of Trump supporters in NYC who didn't bother voting in 2016

because they thought it was a lost cause

if you get those people to turn out as well, we have a fighting chance for NY in 2020

I noticed that.

there are a lot of Democrats in 2016 who didn't vote because they thought Hillary had it in the bag

If I recall correctly, the Trump campaign DOES THINK New York is IN PLAY in 2020