Message from @govenator

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2018-03-18 19:22:20 UTC  

And yeah I've noticed that

2018-03-18 19:22:28 UTC  

People who are "in the middle" are like

2018-03-18 19:22:32 UTC  

always strongly partisan

2018-03-18 19:22:51 UTC  

They're basically meme radical centrists begging for attention by trying to be anti-Trump and "moderate" at the same time.

2018-03-18 19:23:02 UTC  

like they're really just opposing Trump "in moderation"

2018-03-18 19:32:58 UTC  

I think that the blue dog guys can be negotiated to our side, if we want the GOP to be a big tent party, it's only necessary.

2018-03-18 19:33:09 UTC  

We shouldn't seek that ending though.

2018-03-18 19:33:34 UTC  

No, that's not what I mean.

2018-03-18 19:33:47 UTC  

I mean the Blue Dogs need to be used as bargaining chips. That's their entire purpose.

2018-03-18 19:34:09 UTC  

Yep. Tariffs maybe we could get their support on.

2018-03-18 19:34:24 UTC  

Their purpose is that they're Democrats who can talk to both sides--ideologically similar to Republicans, but monetarily bound to the Democrats.

2018-03-18 19:34:54 UTC  

Yeah, even Elizabeth Warren loves tariffs now.

2018-03-18 19:35:29 UTC  

Well, we need all the seats we can get, so Trump definitely should set up a meeting with the congressional blue dog coalition and begin negotiations, this is why he was elected in the first place.

2018-03-18 19:35:51 UTC  

He's a dealmaker, a negotiator, and he made billions on it, he can deal with the blue dogs.

2018-03-18 19:39:29 UTC  

Yep.

2018-03-18 19:39:45 UTC  

But the important thing is the Senate

2018-03-18 19:39:53 UTC  

The House isn't really important right now.

2018-03-18 19:39:56 UTC  

The Senate is the holdup.

2018-03-18 19:40:50 UTC  

Yes, it is right now.

2018-03-18 19:45:01 UTC  

And it will be unless we can get either a filibuster-proof majority (60 votes) or we can get enough friendly Democrats to our side to accomplish cloture.

2018-03-18 22:54:59 UTC  

Btw which would be preferable a crappy GOP neocon candidate or a blue dog?

2018-03-18 22:55:11 UTC  

Neocon.

2018-03-18 23:02:33 UTC  

Neocon

2018-03-18 23:02:41 UTC  

Unless the blue dog had a massive advantage on FP

2018-03-18 23:03:01 UTC  

but since over 90% of Congress is BS on foreign policy that's a non-issue

2018-03-18 23:45:40 UTC  

Sabato's ratings are garbage.

2018-03-18 23:46:01 UTC  

Don't know why I've been thinking they were good.

2018-03-19 01:22:54 UTC  

Why do you want Blue Dogs Nuke?

2018-03-19 01:23:17 UTC  

Manchin is a Blue Dog and he's voted against us on everything and I think he supported the Democratic shutdown.

2018-03-19 02:07:04 UTC  

lol at 5% of Democrats preferring a Republican congress

2018-03-19 02:07:34 UTC  

haha

2018-03-19 02:07:53 UTC  

must be like holdovers that are still registered to the party

2018-03-19 02:12:27 UTC  

I don’t trust polls

2018-03-19 02:36:10 UTC  

@zakattack04 I don't want Manchin et al in states like West Virginia. I want them in states like New York.

2018-03-19 02:37:00 UTC  

Ah ok

2018-03-19 02:37:06 UTC  

He didn't vote for the shutdown and he supported Gorsuch (but not the nuclear option I think) but

2018-03-19 02:37:21 UTC  

The Blue Dogs need to revolt on Obamacare like they promised.

2018-03-19 02:37:46 UTC  

They've been losing voters over their support for Obamacare since they got BTFO into endangerment in 2010.

2018-03-19 02:38:29 UTC  

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