Message from @Walter Johnson

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2018-04-18 05:59:28 UTC  

We need the GOP and white Americans to continue to embrace White Identity politics

2018-04-18 05:59:40 UTC  

Yeah

2018-04-18 05:59:52 UTC  

But mainstream conservatives are fighting us too

2018-04-18 05:59:57 UTC  

Like Ben Shapiro

2018-04-18 06:00:14 UTC  

I feel like Identiarian Groups like Identity Evoropa will really help to make that happen.

2018-04-18 06:00:21 UTC  

We should support those guys

2018-04-18 06:00:24 UTC  

I don't know

2018-04-18 06:01:30 UTC  

White Identity Politics is the key,

2018-04-18 06:01:37 UTC  

but it's a tricky strategy

2018-04-18 06:01:58 UTC  

you have to tread carefully otherwise you'll get the opposite of what you intended

2018-04-18 06:03:14 UTC  

Also every pundit piece I've read argues that politics is getting more Tribal and this help the GOP since they're mainly composed of one group (Conservative White People)

2018-04-18 06:03:41 UTC  

While the democrats are composed of several groups fighting for more influence and attention

2018-04-18 06:04:25 UTC  

While Republicans are religiously and racially homogenous,

2018-04-18 06:04:39 UTC  

there's still that education gap that splits them

2018-04-18 06:05:20 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/399676530394923010/436044543243190272/democratic_voters_have_become_more_racially_diverse_since_the_1990s_less_change_among_gop_voters.png

2018-04-18 06:05:57 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/399676530394923010/436044697434193920/2016_election_vote_choice_among_whites_by_education_and_church_attendance.png

2018-04-18 06:09:09 UTC  

Yeah the division between white working class and more affluent white voters will cause problems but that's not really new in the GOP

2018-04-18 06:09:59 UTC  

that's true, the drift has been happening long before Trump

2018-04-18 06:10:10 UTC  

As for Identiy politics I think it should be Right Wing Activist groups like Identity Evorapa who should try and normalize and mainstream it

2018-04-18 06:12:02 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/399676530394923010/436046231467327494/DGHNLUxXYAAj_Mu.jpg

2018-04-18 06:12:40 UTC  

A lot of the Right wing Populist parties in Europe have a lot of Youth Support

2018-04-18 06:13:23 UTC  

For instance in the French election the Youth vote was split between the Leftwing populist Melechon and the RIght wing Populist Le Pen

2018-04-18 06:14:08 UTC  

I don't see any reason why the same thing couldn't be replicated with Right wing populist candidates in the US (at least with white kids)

2018-04-18 06:14:59 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/399676530394923010/436046973993353236/party_realignment2.0.0.png

2018-04-18 06:15:53 UTC  

^^^This chart is important in discussing what will happen in 2020

2018-04-18 06:16:55 UTC  

With the election of Trump we saw a realingment of the political system with the GOP party because a more Right wing populist party similiar to the Fidesz and Law and Justice party in Poland

2018-04-18 06:17:57 UTC  

This was further summented with the resigning of fiscal conservatives such as Jeff Flake, Bob Corker, and Paul Ryan.

2018-04-18 06:18:18 UTC  

The interesting thing to see is how the Democrats will respond to this realignment

2018-04-18 06:22:28 UTC  

With the GOP going into a more Nationalist direction I would argue that they would respond by going in the direction an internationalist party

2018-04-18 06:23:28 UTC  

With a major schism between the international capitalist (the Clinton-Soros camp) and the international Socialists ( the Sanders camp)

2018-04-18 06:32:11 UTC  

As for 2020 my longshot guess is that there will be three main candidates representing the two groups I mentioned and the moderates that @🎃Boo-ton🎃 mentioned

2018-04-18 06:33:12 UTC  
2018-04-18 06:33:30 UTC  

The international Capitalists will be represented by Kamala Harris, the international populist Socialists will be represented by Bernie Sanders, and the Moderates will be represented by Amy Klobluchar

2018-04-18 06:37:54 UTC  

Who wins out of those three I don't really know

2018-04-18 06:38:29 UTC  

depends who can win the Black vote

2018-04-18 06:38:55 UTC  

Kamala Harris is the most likely to do that then

2018-04-18 06:39:12 UTC  

good luck getting passed the Democratic primary in South Carolina without the Black vote

2018-04-18 06:40:01 UTC  

Harris has close ties to Maxine Waters

2018-04-18 06:40:22 UTC  

I assume Harris will pay her again to endorse her lol

2018-04-18 06:40:26 UTC  

6 out of 10 registered Democrats in SC are Black

2018-04-18 06:41:15 UTC  

Sanders' defeat was ensured when he only got 14% of their vote