Message from @Walter Johnson

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2018-04-18 05:52:02 UTC  

I doubt White Working Class Rage would've been enough to carry him to victory if Democrats had a an energizing candidate

2018-04-18 05:53:04 UTC  

As of right now, it's unclear who the Democrats will run in 2020

2018-04-18 05:53:24 UTC  

like the Republicans, the Democratic Party is in the midst of a schism

2018-04-18 05:54:26 UTC  

between the Marxist and Ethnic Triumphalist wings of the Democratic electorate

2018-04-18 05:55:18 UTC  

there's also the dying breed,

2018-04-18 05:55:23 UTC  

the Moderates

2018-04-18 05:55:41 UTC  

it's hard to say which type would be a bigger advantage for Trump

2018-04-18 05:56:22 UTC  

Diversity-first Democrats would likely alienate and energize Whites to vote Republican,

2018-04-18 05:56:33 UTC  

but also energize Non-Whites in the right places for Dems

2018-04-18 05:57:12 UTC  

a Socialist could attract a wave of young voters to the polls, as well

2018-04-18 05:59:28 UTC  

We need the GOP and white Americans to continue to embrace White Identity politics

2018-04-18 05:59:40 UTC  

Yeah

2018-04-18 05:59:52 UTC  

But mainstream conservatives are fighting us too

2018-04-18 05:59:57 UTC  

Like Ben Shapiro

2018-04-18 06:00:14 UTC  

I feel like Identiarian Groups like Identity Evoropa will really help to make that happen.

2018-04-18 06:00:21 UTC  

We should support those guys

2018-04-18 06:00:24 UTC  

I don't know

2018-04-18 06:01:30 UTC  

White Identity Politics is the key,

2018-04-18 06:01:37 UTC  

but it's a tricky strategy

2018-04-18 06:01:58 UTC  

you have to tread carefully otherwise you'll get the opposite of what you intended

2018-04-18 06:03:14 UTC  

Also every pundit piece I've read argues that politics is getting more Tribal and this help the GOP since they're mainly composed of one group (Conservative White People)

2018-04-18 06:03:41 UTC  

While the democrats are composed of several groups fighting for more influence and attention

2018-04-18 06:04:25 UTC  

While Republicans are religiously and racially homogenous,

2018-04-18 06:04:39 UTC  

there's still that education gap that splits them

2018-04-18 06:05:20 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/399676530394923010/436044543243190272/democratic_voters_have_become_more_racially_diverse_since_the_1990s_less_change_among_gop_voters.png

2018-04-18 06:05:57 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/399676530394923010/436044697434193920/2016_election_vote_choice_among_whites_by_education_and_church_attendance.png

2018-04-18 06:09:09 UTC  

Yeah the division between white working class and more affluent white voters will cause problems but that's not really new in the GOP

2018-04-18 06:09:59 UTC  

that's true, the drift has been happening long before Trump

2018-04-18 06:10:10 UTC  

As for Identiy politics I think it should be Right Wing Activist groups like Identity Evorapa who should try and normalize and mainstream it

2018-04-18 06:12:02 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/399676530394923010/436046231467327494/DGHNLUxXYAAj_Mu.jpg

2018-04-18 06:12:40 UTC  

A lot of the Right wing Populist parties in Europe have a lot of Youth Support

2018-04-18 06:13:23 UTC  

For instance in the French election the Youth vote was split between the Leftwing populist Melechon and the RIght wing Populist Le Pen

2018-04-18 06:14:08 UTC  

I don't see any reason why the same thing couldn't be replicated with Right wing populist candidates in the US (at least with white kids)

2018-04-18 06:14:59 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/399676530394923010/436046973993353236/party_realignment2.0.0.png

2018-04-18 06:15:53 UTC  

^^^This chart is important in discussing what will happen in 2020

2018-04-18 06:16:55 UTC  

With the election of Trump we saw a realingment of the political system with the GOP party because a more Right wing populist party similiar to the Fidesz and Law and Justice party in Poland

2018-04-18 06:17:57 UTC  

This was further summented with the resigning of fiscal conservatives such as Jeff Flake, Bob Corker, and Paul Ryan.

2018-04-18 06:18:18 UTC  

The interesting thing to see is how the Democrats will respond to this realignment

2018-04-18 06:22:28 UTC  

With the GOP going into a more Nationalist direction I would argue that they would respond by going in the direction an internationalist party

2018-04-18 06:23:28 UTC  

With a major schism between the international capitalist (the Clinton-Soros camp) and the international Socialists ( the Sanders camp)

2018-04-18 06:32:11 UTC  

As for 2020 my longshot guess is that there will be three main candidates representing the two groups I mentioned and the moderates that @🎃Boo-ton🎃 mentioned