Message from @zakattack04
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Why
Trends.
@ThatRightWingFish NJ going red would be so beautiful in a year that the left has designated for le blue wave
muh drendz
fuck off
Every time we see one poll that helps us, we get so happy, but all the other ones our response is "muh they're just polls"
Can't have it both ways
according to trends, Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania were impossible to win
What?
we can
according to zak's trendz argument, we should have lost in 2010, 2014, and 2016
Polls are either reliable or they're not
Nope
Are you talking about you idiot
we can see what opportunities may arise
the rust belt states we're winnable@because of their economic makeup
while not giving up on lower results
....
Industrial states
we can have it both ways
But
But
No you can't ducking have t both ways, polls either apply or they dont
"Every time we see one poll that helps us, we get so happy, but all the other ones our response is "muh they're just polls""
no, when I see a poll that favors us, I argue that it shows that polls aren't supporting the left's narrative as much as they want. Polls favoring GOP are not to be trusted either
don't put words in our mouth
they do but we shouldn't shut down opportunities because of it
basically, if one subscribes to the idea that polls are super reliable, then they have to accept GOP favored polls as well
this has revealed a new opportunity to us
now, I don't view them as reliable, ergo I'm not "happy" when I see them come out in our favor
I don't rely on them at all, they're all bullshit, the only worthy polls I think are policy polls.
How are they all bullshit?
Historical evidence is much more reliable than polls
you want to hear some historical evidence
@ThatRightWingFish the vast majority of polls said that is was impossible for trump to carry PA WI and MI
let's pretend it's October, 2016
Ok
Why the hell is Trump campaigning in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania? A republican hasn't won there since 1992, the trends show Democrats winning them for decades.
As I said, it's because of the positions Trump ran on which allowed him to win there. The trend argument upholds itself, because the trend was a generic republican can't win those states because of the positions of the party.
It's not the trend of the result, it's the all the context involved
but Republicans don't win there
That's not true