Yeah, that's the only way I see it happening

Ideologically, there's not going to be a Reagan Democrats situation again.

The difference is nearly diametric at this point

I was a Trump fan but I didn't see Trump winning to be honest, I was really surprised when he won

Me neither

I thought this nation could never elect a man like him again

I was hoping on holding Nevada, which would have edged Trump out. Penn. Michigan, and Wisconsin were not on my radar for flipping.

Well, I'll retcon what I said actually, there *is* going to be a sort of Reagan Democrats situation in the rust belt white working class voting for Rs as the dems abandon whites for minority votes.

6 hours until the decision

But they'll just be straight up right wing and not just moderates at that point

What decision?

The immigration bill

It's Big

Trump's having an address to Congress

Yeah Trump Democrats will emerge out of the Rust Belt, in Minnesota. Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania.

Or have already

well if Trump focuses on Trade and Immigration this summer, yeah they will come out

Another thing to consider is the slow death of unions as right to work continues to rise

what do you mean?

Right to work depresses Dem turnout significantly

Swing States: Out with Iowa, Ohio, Virginia, Colorado. In with Minnesota, Wisconsin, and Michigan.

Union workers don't have anything to vote for so they stay home

Or vote R

If they leave the union and vote on non-union issues

In Wisconsin, after Right to Work was implemented, dem turnout was lowered by 3.5%

and considering Trump had a similar total vote to Romney, the dems staying home won him the election, and some dems flipping made up for the Rs who had too many character issues with Trump to vote for him

so NAFTA talks are going on this summer, hopefully this helps the rust belt with them auto jobs and even for the farmers who are being taxed.

https://gyazo.com/46691bdc7a33acd048071dce4ce25eaa

Wisconsin turnout rates were lower than normal

Yep, Right to Work and some white Obama voters flipping to Trump

Look at Black turnout, down 18.9% from 2012. Insane. That was a common theme across swing states.

It's similar to Romney's total, I assume because of the disgusted Rs that thought Trump was too brash

Once Obama was removed from the ticket, they didn't bother

They vote very intensely for people that look like them

Dems need to run a half-Black, half-Hispanic woman who is working class but also an immigrant to hit all the checkmarks for their base voters.

So you think if Trump puts Trade and the Economy number 1 this summer, the white working class in the rust belt will turn in 2018?

That's why in GA-04 a guy can get away with saying that Guam would capsize if you put too many people on it and still get reelected by wide margins, because he's black and the district is 60% black.

Trade and Immigration

Imma hop in VC if y'all wanna join

The economy isn't that important really

well.....