I’m aware of that.

That’s the issue. It’s not the pursuit of happiness. No man has a right to be happy.

Jefferson changed the lockean principle of the pursuit of property to pursuit of happiness due to the uneasy times of his life. The three fifths compromise existed to do exactly that, compromise. As they had to deal with southern slave states that refused to reject slavery, they changed property to happiness, as to not enforce an idea they fundamentally disagreed with.

But we live in a modern age, where men are no longer property, so why continue to bastardize the ideas that our founding fathers intended that weren’t unfortunately biased by the sins of their time? Also, we might want to move this convo to another chat if you wanna have it. I’m enjoying it.

I was referring to the concept that you have a moral obligation to treat enemy combatants

Combatants is the key there. One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter, as many day. Politics aside, we are all combatants in the end. I remember in training, we were shown a video of a man, believe an admiral I can’t recall for sure, discussing the awe he had of a corpsman, who carried an enemy combatant on his back to receive complete medical care, because he understood the sanctity of life.

I tried to google that video for y’all but I can’t remember it’s name. It’s a great video, that inspires men to do not what is easy, but what is just.

Ive come across some right scumbags in my line of work. Still had to treat them and try to keep them alive.

Just part of it

I'm planning on growing some...medicinal plants...so if shtf y'all know who to hit up lol.

Hahaha, I've never used medicine, but I'm some could use the doctor's services

I also have some minor medical training as well, so i'm more than just a botanist

https://youtu.be/PT6cjp_zThw

Parting words to my cav unit. The most salient piece of medical advice I could give.

That’s amazing man.

Yeah, did the whole weekend warrior thing as a 68w for 6 years.

Thanks for being around to help us.

No problem. How are you set on tourniquets? 😉

one 😦

I liked the Grafkette, it also doubled as a constricting band for giving IVs. Always had one on my belt loop.

I’m just gonna stick with CATs

And use the IV start kit ones to constrict for IV

CAT or SOFTTW

Like a dozen at least

Yes, CoTCCC recommended TQs.

One CAT for you, that works if everyone's got their own, which they should. Doesn't hurt to have extra. Also, the CAT breaks down under exposure to sunlight, so be sure to pack them away.

Too many high-speed operators put them on their MOLLE vests and had them break during crunch time.

Well...you’re also supposed to replace TQ’s like, often

Ive got 4 for me anyway, staged and covered away from UV light and uniform to rub away at shit

Got bags and bags with other medical. It is my 4th job so i have to lol

I don’t have the money for CATs honestly.

I feel ya. $30 a go its hard to sell them because i cant mark em up from cost really

There are external reasons.

Im not upset about it, i make money doing training, the shit i sell isnt where i make the $$

@[LA] Zoomer Medi/k/ How about 1 CAT for your IFAK, and a couple of Grafkettes for the cheapskates?

https://www.mdsupplies.com/medical-supplies-Graham-Field-Grafkette-Tourniquet-S9KRGRWGFP.html

I want two for my IFAK.

Never see those before

I don’t honestly trust those.

They seem not much better than RATs.

Yes, the Grafs are less secure than the CATs but they will stop the bleeding as a temporary measure. They're not a CAT replacement. At Ft. Sam I learned to apply TQs high and tight on the limb first, then convert to a pressure bandage or TQ closer to the wound. Same principle applies to the Graf.