and get real American real fucking quick

When you get mugged so you whip out the saibo .50 BMG from your universal holster

the world shall know what it means to keep the strap

Big gov: yOu CaNt CaRrY a 50
me: 458 it is

I’m just gonna carry a CIWS then

I think my state only allows up to a 45. Constitutional carry at least

Real talk has anyone seen a case where a guy had to defend himself using RIP rounds yet

Carry a .45-70 then

I’d hate to watch someone do that

rip rounds: don't

I know

garbo

however there's a shotgun slug version that looks nasty

But I want someone to have used them to set a precedent in court

Because imo I can’t see anyway your not getting the long shaft of the law having to defend RIP rounds in court

I'd worry about the prosecutor turning to the jury and being like, see this wicked thing? It just screams intent to wound. They wanted to go out and hurt someone.

Forgive my ignorance, what's bad about RIPs?

they wound but don't kill

the goal is to create as large of a wound cavity as possible to stop the target, but rip rounds fragment so much that they're incapable of, as cringe as it sounds, "stopping power"

something like federal HST or speer gold dot that expands dramatically without fragmenting too much is what you want, because handgun rounds don't travel fast enough to cavitate like rifle rounds

Interesting

Critical duty master race

http://www.ar15.com/ammo/project/self_defense_ammo_FAQ/

very important read

I have old RIP ammo that was a gift

I would've figured multiple wound channels would mean more chances to cut arteries

everyone in the server needs to read this article

the article is put together by people with fancy titles such as *doctor* and extremely informative on ammunition

I’m going to concealed carry an A10 Warthog since I can’t have a .50

https://youtu.be/T6kUvi72s0Y

Denim test alone is not good use the FBI test

CCW a snubnose .500 S&W

A YTer called 1shot did a lot of videos on defense ammo educate yourselves and lucky gunner has a bunch of ballistics tests on ammo but just the denim test not FBI

https://www.luckygunner.com/labs/self-defense-ammo-ballistic-tests/

Anyone recommend any plate carrier brands or specific carriers?

Depends on your budget/mission. If budget isn't an issue, well anything Crye or Spiritus systems. If you are on the budget side, some Condors are okay, just know that their stitching sometimes has fail points. But with a $5 sewing kit you can reinforce said areas.

Of course, you get what you pay for, but depending on what you need, there are happy mediums.

Max I can do rn is about 150

I had to sew my condor and Rothco stuff over and over. My slickster will be here tomorrow

Get a slickster. They're like $160 shipped

I'm gonna look them up! Thanks