Message from @Artemis

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2020-05-07 18:14:03 UTC  

nope

2020-05-07 18:14:32 UTC  

It's supposed to penetrate soft materials such as flesh and drywall slightly better than regular 55gr rounds

2020-05-07 18:14:52 UTC  

it will not penetrate any armor that regular 55gr won't too

2020-05-07 18:15:19 UTC  

Ah, ok.

2020-05-07 18:17:10 UTC  

HMMMMNNNNNN @Bogs_Bunny I don’t actually know?

2020-05-07 18:18:09 UTC  

Actually that couldn't be MOA. Cause under 1.0 is "bad"

2020-05-07 18:18:29 UTC  

Yeah green tip isn’t ap. Even M855A1 isn’t *actually* AP in the traditional sense, but it should penetrate M193 rated armor

2020-05-07 18:18:35 UTC  

That’s also just not how MOA works

2020-05-07 18:19:02 UTC  

by giving it a steel tip, they made it penetrate through body tissue better to more reliably meet penetration requirements and punch through stuff like car windows. However, by doing that, it naturally keeps it from fragmenting as well, but fragmentation is where 5.56 gets the majority of its lethality. Stuff like 75gr rounds fragment like crazy, doing a devastating amount of damage when they hit.

2020-05-07 18:19:19 UTC  

So it’s more lethal?

2020-05-07 18:19:19 UTC  

I’m assuming there’s more math there, and that number is a representation of a quantitative measurement of round stability

2020-05-07 18:19:40 UTC  

More lethal is a very relative term

2020-05-07 18:20:04 UTC  

With increased penetration that would decrease the chances of getting “stuck” and hitting vital organs, no?

2020-05-07 18:20:05 UTC  

Wasn't 556 an incapacitating round? Or is that a myth?

2020-05-07 18:20:14 UTC  

I’m legit just guessing so please tell me if I’m wrong

2020-05-07 18:20:55 UTC  

That’s extraordinary levels of fuddlore @Bogs_Bunny

2020-05-07 18:20:58 UTC  

also the numbers on the picture are the stability factor, which is determined by some formula

2020-05-07 18:21:08 UTC  

@Abe Clark yeah. If it has an exit wound it's not dealing all of its kinetic energy

2020-05-07 18:21:55 UTC  

Kinetic energy is pretty much irrelevant to lethality #

2020-05-07 18:23:12 UTC  

Well at least I'm learning. Lol.

2020-05-07 18:23:33 UTC  

If you like math, here's where the picture is from https://www.everydaymarksman.co/equipment/rifling-twist-rate/

2020-05-07 18:23:54 UTC  

Thanks for the article link

2020-05-07 18:24:05 UTC  

I'm not exactly a math nerd, I just like going pew pew

2020-05-07 18:24:42 UTC  

@Bogs_Bunny you will notice me not being hoes mad because there is so much fudd lore around terminal ballistics that it can genuinely be hard to find good info

2020-05-07 18:25:24 UTC  

@Crye_Salesman appreciate it

2020-05-07 18:26:19 UTC  

I forgot where I heard this but there was one that went something along the lines of: shotgun pellets are like a party, it's only good if everyone shows up at the same place around the same time

2020-05-07 18:26:45 UTC  

unrelated, just thought it was funny

2020-05-07 18:27:16 UTC  

I’m headed into work for a few minutes, but I’ll link some DocGKR reference stuff in this chat later today

2020-05-07 18:27:40 UTC  

But essentially shot placement, penetration, expansion. That’s what you should care about, roughly in that order.

2020-05-07 18:28:25 UTC  

That reminds me of when I saw an ad for a single barrel break action 12 gauge at a store for $99.99 I was so bummed out I didn't have the money at the time.

2020-05-07 18:36:25 UTC  

Anyone ever run a magnifier for a red dot
I'm curious if it throws off accuracy and you have to re-Zero on the magnifier

2020-05-07 18:38:07 UTC  

I use one and the magnifier doesn't throw off accuracy.

2020-05-07 18:38:21 UTC  

I do. I haven't done extensive shooting yet. But the magnifier doesn't effect zero

2020-05-07 18:38:23 UTC  

They have adjustments for centering your reticle but it doesn't adjust point of aim

2020-05-07 18:38:53 UTC  

By 'zeroing' your magnifier, all you're doing is adjusting the glass to where the dot is in the center. The dot itself doesn't actually move.

2020-05-07 18:41:20 UTC  

BCM's uppers come with a compensator ☹️

2020-05-07 18:41:27 UTC  

For sure, never used one as wasn't sure

2020-05-07 18:41:33 UTC  

Yeah, the Mod 0 is decent from what I hear.

2020-05-07 18:41:47 UTC  

It may look like a bird cage in a way, but it's an actual comp

2020-05-07 18:42:27 UTC  

I can understand if someone doesn't want it though. I've got a regular a2 on my 11.5 because I don't want more blast if I have to use it indoors

2020-05-07 18:43:14 UTC  

I have a F&W muzzle device.. it's a flash hider, brake and comp all in one device