Fair enough. Especially in terms of surplus

@poorwithagat ACH is much much better than PASGT, I’d be happy to break it down if you’re curious

Tbh i would

Like whats the advantages over PASGT?

Here's what looks like an ad for the ACH

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xVuRb_kGhY

Any good iron sights recommendations?

@Elephant_seal yea, buy an optic

@𝔑𝔢𝔭𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔰 lol I planned on it but I want to have back up sights

Would recommend against the plastic magpul mbus sights. They're not durable enough and can have their zero knocked loose. I might suggest KAC flip up irons

I've heard troy flip up irons are good but fuck troy
ARMS are a classic but apparently you can break the back sight if you knock it into something

Lwrc skirmish sights FTW

KAC’s are the best if you can afford them. The magpul PRO’s are much better than the oem backups and are reasonably priced

@poorwithagat PASGT is heavier, protects against less threats, and doesn’t do suspicion harness well, doesn’t protect against TBI’s, and is much harder to attach other capabilities to

The leitner-wise (of lwrci) e-sites are supposed to be good to

The only advantage of the PASGT over the ACH is price, but ACH’s and equivalent contract helmets can be had for ~150

Garand Thumb recommends a cheap optic over quality irons cause he says they'll run you about the same price anyway and optics are superior.

I’m gonna have to disagree with him there

Irons are a staple to a good rifle

I disagree with him too, but I'm a nubcake. I plan to buy really nice flip irons first, then save up for a decent optic later.

I have a set of FAB defense tritium coming in soon, going to see how they work out.

I originally bought the magpuls for my cheap starter rifle, and I don't care for them, mostly because my old eyes won't focus correctly.

Volley sights or nothing...

I’m just saying at least get mbus sights before a vortex

Irons are gay tbh

And stand alone backups are outdated

Psych

Not when you’ve got a vortex crossfire that’ll break when you look at it funny

If you’re on a flat range go ahead ig

I remember him advocating for fixed front sight posts I think

My thought is, I've never had an optic fail on me, though most of them have been duty grade, but it's better to have a backup and know that it will hold zero than to not have it and have some wacky shit happen to your sight because the stars aligned.

Yeah he personally uses fixed front sight.

I guess if your optic goes down, it's one less thing to worry about. Just flip up your back sight and go

Well use quality optics, and have other methods to aim your rifle, and then integrate backups into your other stuff

Have an acog on an offset mount with an rmr on top of it in case your main acog with rmr goes down

If everyone decided to stop being poor, we wouldn't have to even discuss it.

https://www.everydaynodaysoff.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/ACOG-Centipede-Trijicon.jpg

Just stop being poor *is* the answer

By the time you get to your enemy, your arms will be so big that they'll just get scared and run away

Some day I want to make enough money to afford nods and a laser, then probably never shoot it because ranges are only open at night for special events